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Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:45 pm to GoblinGuide
quote:
What lie was sold?
That Ukraine is an actual legitimate independent country and not a NATO puppet?
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:49 pm to GoblinGuide
quote:
What lie was sold?
Many, but one of the most obvious was “unprovoked” “Unprovoked “
“Unprovoked “
“Unprovoked “
Everywhere you looked, they hammered you over the head with this. Big red flag for propaganda. If you had any sense, you would have immediately started digging if you didn’t already know
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:51 pm to GoblinGuide
quote:
What lie was sold
It's been discussed exhaustively here probably a dozen times. Read thru the threads or search the internet and YouTube.
If you truly don't know, listen to Colonel MacGregor.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:01 pm to GoblinGuide
quote:Lie? No, no, no, no.
What lie was sold?
LieS ... yes
...
E.g., That a gargantuan military alliance abutting Russia's entire western border was not a threat to Russia.
E.g., That NATO was not Russia's enemy.
E.g., That a democratized Russian Federation under Yeltsin warranted Eastward NATO expansion into ex-WarsawPact countries.
E.g., That COMMUNIST China deserved WTO Favored Nation Trading Status > a decade before Russia.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:14 pm to GoblinGuide
Well the idea Russian invasion was without cause for one thing. NATO had an agreement with Russia that they would not advance closer towards the region than they turned around and did it. This was never about Ukraine other than the money & nato controlled region
Posted on 2/7/24 at 10:15 pm to GoblinGuide
quote:
What lie was sold?
Lie by omission, massive corruption within the Ukraine government that existed far before Russia invaded that's essentially turning this into a giant money laundering exercise.
This isn't about stopping Russia, or Russia being a threat. Iran is more of a threat than Russia. This is an excuse to launder money.
If Russia was such a threat why did Obama and Bush sit back and allow them to expand their borders?
Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:05 pm to GoblinGuide
quote:
What lie was sold?
Just like every war, the lie is people lining their pockets off the backs of dead young men and innocent civilians. Happens every time. Ukraine absolutely had the right to defend themselves. But Zelenskyy asking for money to line his pockets, and pockets of those who put him in power, that is disturbing and disgusting. Especially since it is tax payer dollars from us, and other nations. A giant disgusting lie.
Plus, this war has been going on since 2014. This isn’t new. Plans have been set in motion for a long time. Russia will always feel they have a historical claim to those lands around them. And I am sure some people around them may want to be a part of Russia. But why should we be involved? Same shite with the Houthis. I don’t see China, who also suffers as a a global trade power, bombing Yemen. Why are we? Why must we constantly meddle in these affairs when our debt is unreal and we have so many issues at home? Never ending webs of lies.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:58 am to GoblinGuide
quote:
What lie was sold?
Before the invasion the left wing media called them the most corrupt country in the world and full of neo Nazis.
So, they were either lying then or lying now.
That’s just one thing.
A peace deal was on the table and Boris Johnson convinced Zalensky to not sign it. Extended the war and the money laundering.
Anyone supporting this is a disgusting fool.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 7:01 am
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