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re: If you have kids starting to search for college/career... what is left worth pursuing?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:59 pm to Turnblad85
Posted on 2/6/24 at 12:59 pm to Turnblad85
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I wish people would start talking about pay with the value of benefits. Its useless to throw out a salary and not say if benefits (~40% in many cases) are included. As if PTO, healthcare/dental,401k and bonuses are not a huge fricking factor.
Employers NEVER discuss pay without simultaneously discussing benefits among themselves...thats a fools game. Only employees will do so.
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:03 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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And what they won’t tell you is the hustlers in white collar fields run laps upon laps on the blue collar counterparts.
Gordon could probably run a crazy successful trades business. He’d also probably be worth a tiny fraction of what he currently is.
No one ever told me. I went to trade school and college earning an engineering degree simultaneously while working at least 40 hours a week and sidelining wiring houses in my spare time for the first 7 years I was out of high school. I have made a very good living. I have done things and lived in places people from my walk of life can't imagine exist. Had I gone into finance and put that same amount of effort into it I could own those places today.
You get out of life what you put into it, no matter how ill advised your efforts are.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:03 pm to concrete_tiger
Registered nurse, or nurse practitioner.
I’m an RN and I grossed 150k last year due to staffing incentives/bonuses.
Could do the same working less hours as an N.P.
I think Psych N.P.’s are starting at 160k gross up here.
I’m an RN and I grossed 150k last year due to staffing incentives/bonuses.
Could do the same working less hours as an N.P.
I think Psych N.P.’s are starting at 160k gross up here.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:05 pm to Warfox
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Registered nurse, or nurse practitioner.
I’m an RN and I grossed 150k last year due to staffing incentives/bonuses.
Could do the same working less hours as an N.P.
I think Psych N.P.’s are starting at 160k gross up here.
Also damn near impossible to offshore the labor of a nurse. Now matter how bad the economy is folks need nurses until they are dead. Its a hard arse way to earn a living but if you can cut it it is a very steady and lucrative field.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:13 pm to Warfox
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Registered nurse, or nurse practitioner. I’m an RN and I grossed 150k last year due to staffing incentives/bonuses. Could do the same working less hours as an N.P. I think Psych N.P.’s are starting at 160k gross up here.
Wife is a PA, with the same clinic for the past 22 years, she does well, works only 5 days a week and half the hours you work
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
I agree that way too many people go to college but if you’re intelligent and motivated it’s the right call.
The lazy dude working at Starbucks with a worthless degree wouldn’t be knocking down 150k as a plumber.
The lazy dude working at Starbucks with a worthless degree wouldn’t be knocking down 150k as a plumber.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:36 pm to tgrbaitn08
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works only 5 days a week and half the hours you work
How do you know how many hours he worked?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:37 pm to Limitlesstigers
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An "allied health" career. Think respiratory therapists, x ray techs, dental hygienists. Everyone wants to be a doctor or nurse, but with these careers you can basically pick your hours and make 85k to 120k a year and most them only require about 3 years of school at a low cost community college.
Add to this Physical Therapy Assistants and Certified Occupational Therapy Assistants. They do pretty much everything PTs and OTs do but the evals. They make around $70-80k, but can make more. Requires 2-3 years of school.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:46 pm to LNCHBOX
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How do you know how many hours he worked?
Bc nurses get paid by the hour and in order to make that kinda money he’s claiming he made, there’s a lot of overtime
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Bc nurses get paid by the hour and in order to make that kinda money he’s claiming he made, there’s a lot of overtime
That math ain't mathing unless you know his hourly rate, differentials, etc.
What's actually happening is you talking out of you arse, as usual. I know BSNs in the local area that were making $90+ an hour due to the same shortages that guy was talking about.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:52 pm to LNCHBOX
Cool
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:52 pm to yellowfin
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The lazy dude working at Starbucks with a worthless degree wouldn’t be knocking down 150k as a plumber.
Correct.
It's like the old joke/meme with the Communist officers gathering up hipsters and the hipsters are like "Excuse me I made it clear during the Revolution that I wanted to be an artist (or fill in the "creative" field)" as they're being pushed into the train.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
SKILL TRADES!!!!!
Electricians
HVAC
Plumbers
Welders
Construction
We cant find enough people to hire for the company i work for!! You can walk through the door and name your salary at this point. College is for suckers...
Electricians
HVAC
Plumbers
Welders
Construction
We cant find enough people to hire for the company i work for!! You can walk through the door and name your salary at this point. College is for suckers...
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 2/6/24 at 1:58 pm to Buckeye Backer
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You can walk through the door and name your salary at this point.
What door?
I"ll bet you the plane ticket I can't walk through the door and demand $250k + full bennies
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:02 pm to Buckeye Backer
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You can walk through the door and name your salary at this point.
Why do people say shite like this that just isnt true?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:03 pm to Tantal
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He didn't inherit his daddy's business though. In fact, his father was paying him peanuts, so he specifically went out on his own, temporarily destroying his relationship with his father. It was just him, the same shitty truck he drove in high school, and a toolbox. Every dime that he made went back into his business until he could afford to buy another truck and a guy to drive it. Then another. Then another. Dude's a straight hustler. Here's his driveway now.
cool but understand a couple things
1) without his dad, he wouldnt have known 3 trades like you said and been able to become journeyman and get the license for them.
2) he is the very rare exception. the 1 in 100,000 and like you said a hustler. he would have been successful no matter what. I have a friend like that. no degree but the mother fricker is a hustler, understands customer service and understands how to talk to people. He went from selling cell phones to being part owner in a pretty big service business in less than a decade. but i have 25 other guys i know who didnt get an education, went right to work in the trades and barely have a pot to piss in now 20 years after HS.
im smart enough to understand that he is the outlier though
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:04 pm to Old Money
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I'm talking about hiring people to do the work for you. Hence the word scalable -- might be hard for you to understand, try and follow along now.
so not someone in the trades...a business owner. now do you think it would be good for a business owner to have some skills in actual business, management, finance etc?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:04 pm to concrete_tiger
Head of plagiarism at Harvard.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:05 pm to Buckeye Backer
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SKILL TRADES!!!!! Electricians HVAC Plumbers Welders Construction
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walk through the door and name your salary
Those people don’t get paid salaries
They work by the hour and punch clocks
Posted on 2/6/24 at 2:13 pm to Gaston
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’d want him to focus solely on sports fields…develop some metrics that have yet to be defined, then research/develop how to build that slip or ‘softness’ through ‘soil’ layers and sod. Even think you could back to turf and make that better, the fields need ‘slip’.
Let me know when he develops something like this...
This is a hybrid. This is a cross, ah, of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sinsemilla. The amazing stuff about this is, that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus-belt that night on this stuff.
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