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re: Who are the real known/actual OT ballers?

Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:24 pm to
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Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:24 pm to
First, we need to agree on what defines a baller.

I think it should be based on net worth.

Then, move on to a value that must be exceeded.

I propose 5 million net.
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:26 pm to
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If your annual income is north of 7 figures your net worth will be way over $10 Million



My first job out of college was working for a private equity group putting together oil and real estate deals. When we would get a group together everyone had to send in their tax returns and personal financial statements.

I am not exaggerating when I tell you that probably 30% (conservatively) had incomes in excess of their net worths. I am talking about surgeons making $500k a year in 1995 who had $100k of equity in their house and $50k in their checking accounts and still had student loan debt.

Many, many, many guys in their 40s working as insurance agents, lawyers, etc who made good money and had negative net worth.

And that was 30 years ago. I assume it's worse now.
Posted by Maderan
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:28 pm to
$5 million net worth is pretty good but not out of control high since you are including illiquid items like housing and business values.

$5 million in cash/investable assets is a whole different story though.

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:30 pm to
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I am not exaggerating when I tell you that probably 30% (conservatively) had incomes in excess of their net worths


It wouldn't be too weird today. Especially since they don't start making money until later in life, and probably take on a mortgage and family formation while still paying student debt. The income growth from year to year can outpace their ability to save it. For example, calculations such as have 2x salary by X age wouldn't work.

But if that continues into late 40s there's potentially a problem. The income growth eventually slows down.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Maderan
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

My first job out of college was working for a private equity group putting together oil and real estate deals. When we would get a group together everyone had to send in their tax returns and personal financial statements.

I am not exaggerating when I tell you that probably 30% (conservatively) had incomes in excess of their net worths. I am talking about surgeons making $500k a year in 1995 who had $100k of equity in their house and $50k in their checking accounts and still had student loan debt.

Many, many, many guys in their 40s working as insurance agents, lawyers, etc who made good money and had negative net worth.

And that was 30 years ago. I assume it's worse now.


Agree, people with high income tend to spend a bunch and $1 mil is much different than $9 mil...but both are 7 figure incomes.
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

My first job out of college was working for a private equity group putting together oil and real estate deals. When we would get a group together everyone had to send in their tax returns and personal financial statements.

I am not exaggerating when I tell you that probably 30% (conservatively) had incomes in excess of their net worths. I am talking about surgeons making $500k a year in 1995 who had $100k of equity in their house and $50k in their checking accounts and still had student loan debt.

Many, many, many guys in their 40s working as insurance agents, lawyers, etc who made good money and had negative net worth.

And that was 30 years ago. I assume it's worse now.


Yeah, but an income "north of 7 figures" would be $10 million a year minimum. I'd hope someone bringing in that kind of cash would have a net worth in excess of that. Your scenario makes sense for someone making a few hundred thousand though.
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:32 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Maderan
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:33 pm to
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Yeah, but an income "north of 7 figures" would be $10 million a year minimum. I'd hope someone bringing in that kind of cash would have a net worth in excess of that. Your scenario makes sense for someone making a few hundred thousand though.


No, 7 figures starts a $1 mil and goes to $9.99 Mil. 8 Figures is $10 mil.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:38 pm to
He's mincing words about "north" of 7 figs which to some implies 8 figs. Ignore these ones. Smart people know what you mean.
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:40 pm to
I have tens of dollars
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:42 pm to
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No, 7 figures starts a $1 mil and goes to $9.99 Mil. 8 Figures is $10 mil.


Right. What is "north" of 7 figures?

Hint: The answer is at the end of your post.
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:43 pm to
I have active memberships at BOTH Costco & Sam's.

Ball 'til I fall.
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:45 pm to
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I have active memberships at BOTH Costco & Sam's.

Ball 'til I fall.


You must do well on Sample Saturday
Posted by TheChosenOne
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:45 pm to
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Tiger Ryno is a veritable baller.


He doesn't even take all his available tax breaks because he doesn't have to care about his money.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:47 pm to
When you can not notice your wife not being paid for 6 months, you're probably balling. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by Maderan
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:49 pm to
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Right. What is "north" of 7 figures?


$1,000,001 and above is north of 7 figures

$10,000,001 and above is north of 8 figures

Hint: duh
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:52 pm to
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$1,000,001 and above is north of 7 figures


This is 7 figures.

quote:

$10,000,001


This is more than 7 figures
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