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To me looks like Brian Kelly is not going the Corey Raymond direction on this staff
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:48 am
Posted on 1/14/24 at 4:48 am
He’s been unemployed since November 27 and Coach Kelly would have done something by then or even Coach Raymond would have been employed by then by some other university. Is there something up with coach Raymond and his work ethic or still in negotiations with LSU or somewhere else. Why is he still unemployed?
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/14/24 at 5:29 am to melkiper
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Why is he still unemployed?
Because he’s not an elite recruiter in NIL age and he’s been a washed up coach
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:14 am to TaderSalad
He’s not a “washed up coach”. He may be burned out on coaching but you don’t get “washed” up from coaching. The technique don’t change
How do you become an elite recruiter in NIL Age? Is that different than being just an elite recruiter?
How do you become an elite recruiter in NIL Age? Is that different than being just an elite recruiter?
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:25 am to melkiper
Initially I thought it may be Raymond, but I agree, it would be done by now if it was him.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:45 am to melkiper
The longer this goes on, the more I believe it’s not gonna be CR and at this point, I really don’t care as long as the coach can develop
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:58 am to Keaux10
Corey might have burned his good will while at LSU. He was always holding hostage demanding raise.
His secondary hasn’t been good in last 4 years
His secondary hasn’t been good in last 4 years
Posted on 1/14/24 at 8:04 am to melkiper
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He may be burned out on coaching but you don’t get “washed” up from coaching.
Whatever you want to call it, he's old news, and bad news recently.
When I finally retired a couple years back and sold my company, I did it because I was burned out. And, BTW, I wasn't as good as I used to be before that time. Burned out = time to leave and do something else.
Just ask Little Nicky; it was obvious he wasn't the old Nick Saban his last few years...
Posted on 1/14/24 at 8:28 am to melkiper
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Why is he still unemployed?
He has multiple job offers but he wants to be at LSU. I don’t know how long he’s willing to wait, but we have been keeping him on the back burner as a fallback option. There are people in the building who have been lobbying for him, but Kelly is exhausting all options.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 8:30 am to Keaux10
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The longer this goes on, the more I believe it’s not gonna be CR
That's a good thing. There's lots of options that can recruit AND develop DB's better than Raymond. He's 54 and not getting any younger. Based on the recent string of hires, I'd expect BK to hire a really good coach.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 9:10 am to GeauxLSU4
At this point I trust Kelly to make a good move.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 9:22 am to melkiper
quote:m
To me looks like Brian Kelly is not going the Corey Raymond direction on this staff. He’s been unemployed since November 27 and Coach Kelly would have done something by then or even Coach Raymond would have been employed by then by some other university. Is there something up with coach Raymond and his work ethic or still in negotiations with LSU or somewhere else. Why is he still unemployed?
Yall are so annnoying with this shite. It’s a little more complicated…
We have 10 positional coaches already. Guess what, that’s how many you are allowed.
So Kelly has to figure out what to do with Diego and the other old fart on defense that was coaching edge and DL and Special teams this year.
With only 2 spots if he does move them out, what does he do? So far we don’t have a LB coach (maybe Baker, maybe Peoples), No TE coach, No DB coach and new special teams coach.
Chess not checkers bro. There’s a lot of shite to determine and he kinda needed to know about Baker and probably Bo and Peoples first.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 9:26 am to melkiper
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Message Corey Raymond
Is everyone on this board that simple minded that they can’t fathom that Kelly isn’t hiring a washed up coach that was here before him?
Like there are 100’s of DB coaches, and idiots on here can’t stop saying Raymond.
This is why people make fun of the people from Louisiana.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 10:22 am to GeauxLSU4
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There's lots of options that can recruit AND develop DB's better than Raymond.
Can you list them? You state there are "lots" so I'm interested to see who has a better resume.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 10:31 am to TigerAttorney
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Is everyone on this board that simple minded that they can’t fathom that Kelly isn’t hiring a washed up coach that was here before him?
Some posters here make arguments against CR that have some validity to them. But calling him "washed up" is fricking stupid.
But feel free to disagree with me by regurgitating some dumb shite about getting fired by "Sunbelt Billy". Or maybe you'll ignore that he had a 5-star DB from Texas committed to going to that shithole Gainsville before Napier ran him off. Or maybe you'll do like others and say he only brought in talent but couldn't develop but ignore the amount of players he had drafted. Are there other good DB coaches in this country? of course. But you idiots shitting on CR are proving your own ignorance.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:22 am to notbilly
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Can you list them? You state there are "lots" so I'm interested to see who has a better resume.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NAME ALL THE ELITE DB’s he recruited. Before you go Stingley or Ricks NEITHER were Raymond recruits nor were any of these guys.
This is DBU’s core.
Eugene
Loston -2011
Brandon Taylor 2011
Francois
Pat Peterson
Ron Brooks 2011
Mo Claiborne 2011
Eric Reid 2011
TM7 2011
Tharold Simon 2011
Dexter Alexander
Martin 2011
Jalen Collin
Jalen Mills
Dwayne Thomas
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 11:22 am
Posted on 1/14/24 at 5:18 pm to Tiger1988
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NAME ALL THE ELITE DB’s he recruited.
The one thing that is universally accepted here is that Raymond recruited at a very high level. He had a 5-star committed to Florida before he got fired there. If you are going to argue against CR's recruiting, there is no hope of having a rational discussion with you.
quote:The recruiting sites (Rivals and 247) say you are wrong. But carry on with the revisionist history.
Before you go Stingley or Ricks NEITHER were Raymond recruits
quote:You keep posting this list. There are some badasses on that list, but there are some that can't hold a candle to many Raymond recruited.
This is DBU’s core.
Eugene
Loston -2011
Brandon Taylor 2011
Francois
Pat Peterson
Ron Brooks 2011
Mo Claiborne 2011
Eric Reid 2011
TM7 2011
Tharold Simon 2011
Dexter Alexander
Martin 2011
Jalen Collin
Jalen Mills
Dwayne Thomas
247
Posted on 1/14/24 at 5:32 pm to sheeeeeit
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has multiple job offers but he wants to be at LSU. I don’t know how long he’s willing to wait, but we have been keeping him on the back burner as a fallback option. There are people in the building who have been lobbying for him, but Kelly is exhausting all options.
This is great to hear. Whether kelly hits on Karl Scott or settles for raymond
This shows raymond actually wants the lsu job
Posted on 1/14/24 at 5:50 pm to Chalkywhite84
quote:the last part of the statement I believe. The first part doesn’t pass the sniff test.
has multiple job offers but he wants to be at LSU.
Really interested in who has been telling recruits and other “sources” on the periphery that Raymond’s hiring is imminent.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 2:17 pm to Soft_Parade
He is already on the list there just waiting to announce weather anyone likes it or not.
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