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Marvel’s Echo has dropped

Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:08 am
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:08 am
I watched episode 1. Fights are telegraphed and punches are pulled. Clearly trying to recreate the one-shot hallway fights of Netflix Marvel, but I don’t care about this character. They haven’t done anything to help me care about her, either.

Sounds like they're aware of its shortcomings, which hopefully means this will be fixed by Daredevil.

Started strong, with side-alien-boob, though.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10728 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:14 am to
quote:

I watched episode 1. Fights are telegraphed and punches are pulled. Clearly trying to recreate the one-shot hallway fights of Netflix Marvel, but I don’t care about this character. They haven’t done anything to help me care about her, either.


Pass


quote:

Started strong, with side-alien-boob, though.


I'm listening....
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:15 am to
there's a reason they decided to drop it all at once
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
15289 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:16 am to
Legitimate question because I haven't looked too much into the show: is her dialogue all sign language with subtitles?

I don't think I could watch something like that
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41989 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:23 am to
This was dropped all at once for a reason.

It’s awful.

Gulp that shot down fast & get it over with.

Forget it & move on.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 10:24 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63975 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:28 am to
quote:

They haven’t done anything to help me care about her, either.


Well they don't care because women are in charge now racist. This is for women not white supremacist Nazis.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Member since Aug 2013
10169 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:32 am to
Watched two episodes with my son. Looks like they're copying Ms. Marvel (why?) in that she has visions of her ancestors. They're gonna give her some kind of lost Native American power. Got the glowy hands at the end of the 2nd episode. I'll probably watch the rest since it's only 3 more episodes, but it's not good. Not sure Kingpin can save it.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82997 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:33 am to
Never even heard of the character or the show
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63975 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:36 am to
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They're gonna give her some kind of lost Native American power.


To defeat the white male colonizers of course.
Posted by MrBarry
Member since Sep 2023
432 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:37 am to
I know they are wanting people to want to see this Echo girl, but the only reason the vast majority of people will give it a shot is b/c of Daredevil and Kingpin.

That being said, you'll get the viewers b/c of those two guys, and if you write a good story and create a good character in Echo, then you succeeded.

But i saw the trailer for it on tv the other day and it was that same terrible fight scene that was shot awfully, and it's going to be hard for me to spend my time watching something that put something that crappy in their trailer.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7900 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:39 am to
I just have zero interest in watching this.
Slightly off topic: I started rewatching Legion last week (I watched the first season and some of the second, but never finished it). THAT was a really good Marvel TV show. I’d put it up with Loki and the first season of Jessica Jones.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:45 am to
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To defeat the white male colonizers of course.


Well, Kingpin, anyway.

There is this moronic flashback to like 1,200AD Alabama where the Choctaws are playing a lacrosse-like game and, of course, a squaw goes all Barry Sanders on all these warriors to save their tribal land.

High stakes for a game.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 10:46 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63975 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Well, Kingpin, anyway.

There is this moronic flashback to like 1,200AD Alabama where the Choctaws are playing a lacrosse-like game and, of course, a squaw goes all Barry Sanders on all these warriors to save their tribal land.

High stakes for a game.



It's the same shite with different names in all content.

Men bad
White men ESPECIALLY BAD
US bad
Corporations bad
European culture BAD

Women GOOD
Woman of color ESPECIALLY good
LGBTQ good
LGBTQ woman of color THE MOST GOOD
Any non-European culture GOOD
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
2240 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:59 am to
quote:

there's a reason they decided to drop it all at once


Yep, was hearing from scoopers a while back this this show was terrible. She was fine in Hawkeye by herself no need for a show.
But they need something to put on D+, so we'll be getting more of this.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23533 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:11 am to
quote:

It's the same shite with different names in all content.

Men bad
White men ESPECIALLY BAD
US bad
Corporations bad
European culture BAD

Women GOOD
Woman of color ESPECIALLY good
LGBTQ good
LGBTQ woman of color THE MOST GOOD
Any non-European culture GOOD


I'm telling you, I'll be watching because I just can't get enough of this stuff.
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
2360 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:25 am to
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was hearing from scoopers a while back this this show was terrible.
wasn't it trimmed down from 8 episodes?
Is this the one that caused Feige to get more hands-on again? I'm sure there's board pressure about "underperforming characters."
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:26 am to
This show was ok, nothing more. It felt disjointed and rushed like some other offerings have as well, very similar to Ms. Marvel in that regard.

Kingpin was awesome though and stole every scene he was in. I like the direction he’s heading and cannot wait to see more in Daredevil and hopefully Spider-Man 4. I’d like to see more scale to his crime syndicate like the Netflix shows had, but Echo was meant to be a personal story clearly and he likely has to build that back up slowly since the events of Netflix Daredevil are canon. Still, he’s setting up to be THE big bad of the street level which is intriguing.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12748 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:27 am to
Hahahahahahaha. Another turd. Why do people have Disney+?
Posted by vilma4prez
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6611 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:28 am to
That would tie into the episode of "What if...".
I was wondering where that episode came from...
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:28 am to
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Alabama where the Choctaws are playing a lacrosse-like game


Is it Historically accurate and by that I mean are they using a human head as a ball?
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