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re: Supreme Court agrees to review Trump’s Colorado ballot ban in historic case

Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:33 pm to
My nephew was there - flew up on Roger stone’s plane.

He said there were supposed to be 2 stages where speakers and bands were going to play in front and behind the Capitol.

That’s what they were going to Capitol for.

When they got there the stages had been destroyed.

And the police invited people in.

This was a set up and Trump didn’t participate one bit in insurrection.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:41 pm to
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Not required. That the Colorado Supreme Court made a factual finding that he did so and was ineligible is all that's required per the 14th Amendment.
Yes. I vividly remember the trial. It was on all the news outlets for weeks.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:43 pm to
There actually was a trial (at the district court level)
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4061 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:44 pm to
Holy frick you are an idiot. The Colorado Supreme Court can not find him guilty of insurrection; they are an appeals court, not a trial court. Their only functions are to determine if a lower state court’s finding is constitutional or not on its face and if the laws governing the state of Colorado were followed properly during a lower court’s trial process. Supreme Courts do NOT determine guilt or innocence.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27421 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:45 pm to
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I vividly remember the trial. It was on all the news outlets for weeks.

To be fair, that fact-finding occurs at the District (or whatever nomenclature CO uses) level.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27421 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:46 pm to
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Supreme Courts do NOT determine guilt or innocence.

This isn’t a categorically true statement. Better to just stay away from it. It’s nuanced by state, and, for the record, SCOTUS has original jurisdiction over certain areas as well.

No need to get out over our skis on this one. The CO SC is going to get slapped around.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:46 pm to
I'm surprised they determined Trump had standing.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27421 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:48 pm to
He’s the specific target of the state’s action. Why wouldn’t he have standing?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:49 pm to
Don't give Boomer jokes the attention they crave
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2326 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:54 pm to
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If they follow original and textualist principles, POTUS is NOT an “officer of the United States”


Except in the emoluments clause. Although Trump argues that doesn't apply to POTUS either, no one agrees with him.

Or the disqualification language of the impeachment power? Article 1, section 3 says Congress can disqualify an impeached person from holding any office under the United States.

Do you believe a person who has been convicted of impeachment and disqualified from holding office can still run for President?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49017 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:55 pm to
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Do you believe a person who has been convicted of impeachment and disqualified from holding office can still run for President?


Who was convicted of impeachment?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31678 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:00 pm to
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explain to me what constitutional right a state can unilaterally take away from someone???


States can, like, put you in jail, take away your voting rights, and execute you… with due process. So yeah that could be the issue. What is the due process standard applicable to this decision?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33831 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:01 pm to
Freaking gif almost gave me a seizure.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33831 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:04 pm to
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just read the 14th amendment. In its entirety. Then shut up.


He won’t. He will just keep getting his info from Twitter and press statements (not fact checked) because that’s faster and doesn’t require real discernment or intelligence.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9820 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:12 pm to
Good sheep. The machine thanks you for your service. You will get some extra food pellets for your service. Bahhhhhh
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:17 pm to
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I'm predicting 7-2 to overturn. The two against Trump's case will be the Wise Latina the one who's not sure what a woman is.


Or, as I refer to them, Justice Wise Latina and Justice Diversity Hire.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:30 pm to
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What was the ultimate goal of January 6th?

Which part?


The part that's resulted in scores of felony convictions.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49017 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:33 pm to
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The part that's resulted in scores of felony convictions.


How many were for insurrection?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:34 pm to
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You do realize the 14th amendment authorizes congress to make exactly these laws right? And they have yet to do so in this instance.


It's self-executing, since it was used in the past and no laws had then been made as you say.

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What due process do you think is required to trigger this clause of the 14th?


Whatever it was, Colorado and Maine judges consider it satisfied.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:34 pm to
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He's 100% eligible in Colorado


At the moment, this is incorrect. Per the Colorado Supreme Court.
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