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Posted on 1/3/24 at 5:09 pm to Chad504boy
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BOY, SFP will never learn to shut his fricking mouth. This re-read was fricking great with Latt's restructure news and Underhill now pointing this out.
Chad, nothing we did today changes the dead money already accumulated.
I even paid $9 to read this shitty article that says nothing, but even it says this:
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If Lattimore is moved, New Orleans would need to find another cornerback and still pay an exorbitant amount of money for one of its best players to star for another team. It seems counterintuitive on its face, but if there are tensions behind the scenes, this could be a move toward alleviating all of that.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 5:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
Eat shite you were dead wrong. Eating cap for another team means more trade value back for us.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 5:41 pm to Chad504boy
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Eat shite you were dead wrong.
Explain how, specifically.
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Eating cap for another team means more trade value back for us.
That's not what was written
Latt's dead cap when this thread was going doesn't change. Our cap relief will be minimal. All this move does is make taking on his contract potentially more palatable for a potential suitor, in case he demands a trade. It does nothing to help our cap situation.
We'd save the same money with his entire base salary going out. That base salary is assumed by the new team, just as the option bonus would be assumed by the new team.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 5:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
Dude your posts arent even worth reading anymore. He’s tradable now. You’re dead fricking wrong.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:04 pm to Chad504boy
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He’s tradable now.
You don't even understand what you're trying to argue
Explain to me exactly what has changed. With details and numbers, preferably
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
Hate to say it but Chad boy is right. With it being an option bonus now the team isn't on the hook for the bonus until a week before the league season starts. If they trade him before that the new team has to foot that bonus. Underhill put out a good video about the contract language on YouTube.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:44 pm to Chadzilla
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With it being an option bonus now the team isn't on the hook for the bonus until a week before the league season starts. If they trade him before that the new team has to foot that bonus
What is the difference in this and salary, cap-wise?
If we trade him with base salary, it's the same impact on our cap. The new team eats it.
If we didn't restructure and then did not trade him,.we could restructure the salary as a bonus.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:59 pm to Chadzilla
Oooof sfp doesn’t know it all after all. Something I’ve said way in the beginning. Quite the read folks.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:04 pm to Chad504boy
Chad, still waiting for you to explain how this changes the dead cap amount we have to absorb
Hint: don't look to Underhill because he doesn't discuss it
Hint: don't look to Underhill because he doesn't discuss it
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:07 pm to Chadzilla
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Just skip the ads and he starts talking about it right away.
Again, if we trade him we don't pay for his salary either. The receiving team does. Salary or option bonus changes little.
Now this can theoretically split the dead cap, but that is a net-0 change and not what was being discussed in this thread previously. There is nothing we can do to modify the accelerated bonus pro-ration without a time machine. That bonus money was already paid.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:47 pm to Chad504boy
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Does he?
He was out for the Rams game. And significant time last year, so I believe he does
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:29 am to Chad504boy
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Lattimore is effing great but he’s a luxury that we can’t afford and is one of few assets that help our cap and can return great draft capital.
Trading Lattimore adds between 14 and 30 million to the cap.
Unless he disgruntled and is willing to tear up his contract and sign a vet minimum deal to be traded and I don't even think that's legally possible in the NFL.
Again the only guys that are tradable are rookies ot players still on rookie deals that haven't been restructured. That narrows the list down to basically only Olave maybe Breese and Shaheed.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:36 am to Proximo
Oh Latt makes a huge impact on our team. He may be our best player.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:44 am to SlowFlowPro
Some woman who claims to know Latt was tweeting last week all but saying he’s sitting out bc he hates DA. Hope he and Mike have no ragerts down the road. Only get one career and it’s over in a flash.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:07 am to S
Yeah this move is being made because I think he is demanding a trade or has become such a cancer that we have to deal him.
Our entire cap philosophy was built around kicking cans on Latt and Ram's deals every year, and now it seems both are off the table moving forward, which is causing major issues.
This maneuver doesn't change the dead cap we'd eat, but it can open up a little more room in 2024 (by butt-fricking 2025). The net impact overall is still 0, and we ultimately don't save that much.
We're scrambling to be legal in 24 while creating a MONSTER in 2025. If we designate Ram a post-June 1 cut/retirement, 2025 is going to have like $50-60M in dead cap from just Latt and Ram alone
Our entire cap philosophy was built around kicking cans on Latt and Ram's deals every year, and now it seems both are off the table moving forward, which is causing major issues.
This maneuver doesn't change the dead cap we'd eat, but it can open up a little more room in 2024 (by butt-fricking 2025). The net impact overall is still 0, and we ultimately don't save that much.
We're scrambling to be legal in 24 while creating a MONSTER in 2025. If we designate Ram a post-June 1 cut/retirement, 2025 is going to have like $50-60M in dead cap from just Latt and Ram alone
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Can’t have it both ways. You are 80 million + over the cap. Either you move him or stay the course.
Think he restructures?
Think he restructures?
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
We were going to have to restructure him anyway due to the $80mm, were we not? It could just be that he’s not playing anyway so it wasn’t a distraction for him.
I haven’t listened to Nick yet on his thoughts as to why it happened now. Any insight?
I found the clip on twitter discussing that it’s actually an option bonus and he won’t get paid until September basically. frick
I haven’t listened to Nick yet on his thoughts as to why it happened now. Any insight?
I found the clip on twitter discussing that it’s actually an option bonus and he won’t get paid until September basically. frick
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 9:05 am
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:06 am to Proximo
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I found the clip on twitter discussing that it’s actually an option bonus and he won’t get paid until September basically. frick
The option bonus means if traded, the new team pays those monies. either traded or not traded or cut, its still guaranteed to Marshon.
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