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Does it seem strange the US government can openly commit murder?

Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:42 pm
I think about the drone strikes that were so popular under Obama that routinely killed civilians, or a little over a year ago when Biden was bragging about killing terrorists with a drone strike but later it was revealed it was a volunteer and some children.

If anyone in the US intentionally killed even one person, let alone several over and over again, we'd face the obvious consequences. But the government does this a matter of routine business and everyone just shrugs. Oops, we killed 20 innocent people with the touch of a button. Anyway, here's Wonderwall.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 10:18 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10674 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:50 pm to
Honestly, if we could refine that process to the point that we could take out problems like Putin or the leadership of Hamas with precision, lots fewer innocent lives would be lost.

The problem is that we're not great (yet) at identifying, locating, and hitting the targets.

I understand what you're saying, but the alternative is to allow Middle Eastern terrorists to (eventually) attack our citizens without a deterrent or go to full scale war.

I would think just as high a percentage of innocent civilians would die in a full scale war, if not more. Isn't that what we're seeing in Gaza?
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 8:51 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59277 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:53 pm to
The government can openly kill its own citizens and it’s celebrated via the death penalty. That really blows my mind.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5664 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:54 pm to
I can understand Hamas leadership (who the world pretty much universally recognizes a terrorist organization) but do you understand the shite show on the world stage that would occur if the US openly assassinated Putin, the leader of a world power, a recognized sovereign nation, and one of the 5 permanent members of the UN?
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 8:57 pm
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:59 pm to
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The government can openly kill criminals convicted by a jury of their peers


Fixt
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22057 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:02 pm to
Obama targeted an American citizen in Yemen for assassination (no judge, no jury, no appeal) - Anwar al-Awlaki
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6133 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:07 pm to
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problems like Putin

Why is Putin a problem? We have no beef with him or Russia.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:12 pm to
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Obama targeted an American citizen in Yemen for assassination (no judge, no jury, no appeal) - Anwar al-Awlaki

You mean the guy fighting against our troops in military operations?
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:14 pm to
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Why is Putin a problem? We have no beef with him or Russia.


^^^
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
51023 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:16 pm to
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Honestly, if we could refine that process to the point that we could take out problems like Putin or the leadership of Hamas with precision, lots fewer innocent lives would be lost.


Funny, a lot of other countries feel the same about us.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9086 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:17 pm to
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The government can openly kill its own citizens and it’s celebrated via the death penalty.


No, it is not celebrated. Every death is a tragedy. The reason I am for the death penalty is for consequences of heinous actions. There must be extremely high consequences for terrible acts.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:19 pm to
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we could take out problems like Putin or the leadership of Hamas with precision, lots fewer innocent lives would be lost.


If the US droned Putin there would be an insane number of lives lost.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:21 pm to
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Every death is a tragedy

Slow your roll buddy
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18171 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:25 pm to
I always felt it was unsettling.

The Biden strike was disgusting. He murdered little kids in a country we weren't even at war with. And basically it was written off as an "acceptable loss". Don't even know if the few surviving family members were given compensation.. or if Biden's crew just quietly killed them also.

It's surreal.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10674 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:25 pm to
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do you understand the shite show on the world stage that would occur if the US openly assassinated Putin, the leader of a world power, a recognized sovereign nation, and one of the 5 permanent members of the UN?



That's part of the development. For it to be viable they would have to be able to do it without it being able to be traced to us. Nobody said anything about it being an open assassination.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10674 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:27 pm to
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Funny, a lot of other countries feel the same about us.


How many of them are primarily responsible for the majority of the world enjoying the highest standard of living in the history of the race?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10674 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:29 pm to
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Why is Putin a problem? We have no beef with him or Russia.


That's asinine.

Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:29 pm to
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The Biden strike was disgusting. He murdered little kids in a country we weren't even at war with. And basically it was written off as an "acceptable loss". Don't even know if the few surviving family members were given compensation.. or if Biden's crew just quietly killed them also.

You really want to go down the road of us compensating people in those situations?
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:31 pm to
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That's asinine.

Not hardly
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16593 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:32 pm to
So what. Eff then, that's life man, we rock we are America and we do as we please.
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