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Fishing smoky mountain national park

Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:16 am
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:16 am
Will be doing a short trip next week and thinking of packing the fly rod. Any of you try out there and have success? Also trying to navigate Tennessee weird license stipulations of no trout all species etc. can I get a basic and just not keep any or can you not even fish for them without the proper license?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
21549 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:31 am to
Fly fishing stores are usually very helpful, I'd consider finding one locally and stopping in to buy some flies, tips on spots, and licensing. I have no specific help beyond that, and obviously they aren't going to give you the absolute best secrets but they will generally give you flies that will catch some fish.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1130 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 3:04 pm to
Hike two miles toward abrams falls. Fish the horseshoe where it leaves the trail. Fish it upstream back to the trail. These are the largest and most abundant trout in the park. It’s not Colorado but it’s the best fishing in the park IMO.
Abrams creek is very slippery and if you fish the whole horseshoe it will take you all day. Be careful..
You will need to get a map of the trail and the stream. Park visitor center has good trail maps
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 3:13 pm
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25286 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 3:21 pm to
Thanks for the info. It may be wishful thinking that I even wet a line but the fly rod doesn’t take up much space broken down so I may try and fit it into the family truckster
Posted by uncletrout
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2012
9 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:34 pm to
As long as you are in the park, you only need a TN or NC fishing license - no trout stamp needed. Regs in general are single-hook artificial only, but you can fish a two-fly rig. Local shops can put you on the right flies but basic nymphs are probably the ticket right now. I almost always fish hopper-dropper rig.

I know the NC side of the park best, but in general get beyond any easy-access area from trailheads and the fishing picks up. You might have to put in a mile or so on the trail at some of the most popular areas (Deep Creek, Bradleys Fork in NC for example - not sure what that may equate to on the TN side).

It has been very dry here, so the creeks are likely very low and clear - and the trout easy to spook. Good luck!
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
31509 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:39 pm to
greenbriar area creeks were pretty solid. like baldona said fly shops will steer u right.

one even gave us a pin drop right on some brookies.
Posted by EasternShoreTider
Fairhope, AL
Member since Oct 2018
1019 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:59 pm to
I agree, Abrhams Creek is a great stream with plenty of decent fish.

Another good option is Panther Creek. I believe it's off the Middle Prong river and you should be able to find the panther creek trailhead on google. Small stream full of native brook trout. My only advice is hike well past the cascades until you see the "panther creek" wooden sign. And keep going a bit further, the farther up the creek you go the better the fishing.

Good luck!
Posted by gptigers
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2010
228 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:13 pm to
The folks at Little River Outfitters in Townsend will get you squared away. Very knowledgeable, friendly, and always wiling to help out non-locals find fish. Casting will likely be very short (9-12’) and primarily on pocket water. This time of year anything with an orange and brown tone works well..never sink caddis with a nymph dropper will be good for just about anywhere.

Little River Outfitters
Posted by gptigers
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2010
228 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:15 pm to
Seconded on Panther Creek. There’s a small footbridge over some wet area on the trail…usually I don’t put a line in until this point. Trail is an old logging railroad so it’s pretty flat and slopes gently upward.
Posted by EasternShoreTider
Fairhope, AL
Member since Oct 2018
1019 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:17 pm to
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The folks at Little River Outfitters in Townsend will get you squared away.


Bingo..just ask these guys how to get to Panther Creek and they will give you a map. Hope you can find some of those brookies!
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15965 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 7:49 am to
One of my favorite fly fishing spots is to go to Chimney Tops trailhead. Walk back through the tunnel going towards Gatlinburg. After you get through the tunnel, find the safest place for you to slide down the hill into the river. Bunch of good fishing for rainbows up to the trailhead.

Once you get to the trailhead, hike the trail to bridge 4, fish from there up to catch native brookies. Thats a good few hours of fishing.


If you get a bow and a brookie, go down to road prong and get you a brown to get yourself a Smokies Grand Slam. Take a pic of each fish and you use to be able to get a pin at Little River Outfitters in Townsend.

If you want to catch big fish, head over to Cherokee and pay to fish the trophy section.

You need a trout stamp to fish trout in Tennesssee.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 7:55 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
9534 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:01 am to
Not in Tennessee but just south of Cherokee NC there is a cable bridge across the Tuckasegee River. This is a very popular area for those coming from Cherokee and headed south, the bridge is almost a must stop and see type situation. What is not so well known is that there are some MONSTER hold over browns in that stretch of river, particularly in January and February. I imagine it may not be legal now and may not have been when we were doing it regularly but we would catch a bucket full of suckers, slide a 12 foot jon boat down the bank at that bridge and float down the river to the downstream side of the island that the bridge connects to both banks. Where the water comes back together after splitting around that island there is a hole about 20 feet deep...probably the deepest hole in the entirety of that river. We would flat line a 6-10" sucker unweighted unless the water was high from the bank to the far end of that hold and catch MONSTER browns and some nice rainbows as well. We would make bait during the day, get to the island around 3-4 PM and stay out there as long as we could stand it past dark, usually around midnight...and wear the damn fish OUT.

When we were done we would drag the boat to the upstream side of the island and float back down to the bridge. I have tried to do this in the summer and caught fish but not as many and not as big. I have no idea where those big browns go in the summer but they are probably in that deep hole and just not feeding like they do in late winter / early spring.

We used to do nearly the exact same thing on the Chattahoochee River in Atlanta and north of Lake Lanier when I was a kid....except we could catch big browns and nice rainbows year round on the 'hooch. I am not sure you can flat line a bait fish for trout on the hooch anymore but it was legal in 80's because we would get checked at least once on every trip.

There is a reason fly fishing is preferred for trout fishing...its because the damned things are EASY to catch with anything other than a fly rod LOL...they are not overly selective nor very smart. The wilder they are makes them a little more difficult to catch but flat line a night crawler out west and you will load a drift boat while the long rod will catch 15 or so a day. Flat line whatever native bait fish they are feeding on and they don't hesitate to chow down....
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15965 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:17 am to
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There is a reason fly fishing is preferred for trout fishing...its because the damned things are EASY to catch with anything other than a fly rod LOL


In the park itself it is preferred because bait fishing is not allowed, and if the park rangers catch you with bait, it's a pretty sizeable federal fine. Have to use artificial tackle and there are rules on the tackle as well.
Posted by Park duck
Sip
Member since Oct 2018
510 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:56 am to
If you cant catch a trout on a olive wooly booger you can't catch
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
9534 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:00 am to
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In the park itself it is preferred because bait fishing is not allowed, and if the park rangers catch you with bait, it's a pretty sizeable federal fine. Have to use artificial tackle and there are rules on the tackle as well.


Otherwise the fish would disappear within days of stocking and would not last long enough to breed.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
9534 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:11 am to
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In the park itself it is preferred because bait fishing is not allowed, and if the park rangers catch you with bait, it's a pretty sizeable federal fine. Have to use artificial tackle and there are rules on the tackle as well.


The Tuckasegee is not in the park in the area of the swinging bridge and according to the NC Fishing and Trout Waters page there are no restrictions on that stretch of river. I may give it a go after the first of the year and see if those big browns are still holed up downstream of that island....
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15965 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:45 am to
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The Tuckasegee is not in the park in the area of the swinging bridge and according to the NC Fishing and Trout Waters page there are no restrictions on that stretch of river. I may give it a go after the first of the year and see if those big browns are still holed up downstream of that island....


Yeah outside the park still see tons of people fishing with corn and worms for trout. They line up right next to the stocking trucks when they let them out. Just don't see the fun in that.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 11:45 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
9534 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 3:00 pm to
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Yeah outside the park still see tons of people fishing with corn and worms for trout. They line up right next to the stocking trucks when they let them out. Just don't see the fun in that.



Its fun for kids and a good opportunity for folks who ain't done it to catch some dinner. Catching several 5-10 pound browns that have held over and 3 pound Rainbows, on the other hand, is fun I don't care how many trout I have caught. There may not be any holdover fish in the river but there used to be and they were a blast to catch.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15965 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 5:47 pm to
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Its fun for kids and a good opportunity for folks who ain't done it to catch some dinner.


That’s not usually who I see out there fishing off the stock truck. It’s older guys and they get extremely territorial with each other. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me to see these types shove kids out of the way to get their pole in first.

Seen some weird things out and about on the rivers around here with these types.
Posted by deeprig9
2023/24 B2B GSB Riboff Champ
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67253 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 6:37 pm to
My favorite thing about the Chattooga River bordering GA and SC is it is stocked by helicopter by the SCDNR so the hillbillies can't just follow the stocking truck around. And the river is always good to fish, with plenty of holdovers.
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