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re: Michael Thomas clears up play that led to Carr/Olave confrontation
Posted on 10/21/23 at 1:43 pm to BarbeTiger
Posted on 10/21/23 at 1:43 pm to BarbeTiger
So olave's job is to clear out the safety for the first player in the progression, but he loafed and didn't do that? I don't see how this fact pattern clears him
Posted on 10/21/23 at 1:50 pm to Olric
I think olave thought "mission accomplished" in that he could tell the safety was cleared enough for Taysom to be fairly open. Maybe Olave was also loafing it a bit in anticipation of blocking downfield for Taysom.
I sense that his frustration and bad body language after the play was based on the fact that he immediately know that unplanned throw by Carr was going to mean that casual fans were going to blame him for not running hard on a route that wasn't even an option, which is exactly what happened. The "I hate Chris Olave" thread after the game was upvoted like 70 to 0 (I upvoted it myself).
Then to have Carr berating you in a primetime game for something that the entire offense knows is clearly Carrs fault (and after he threw a pick 6) is just a bridge too far for a swaggy young brother like CO12.
I sense that his frustration and bad body language after the play was based on the fact that he immediately know that unplanned throw by Carr was going to mean that casual fans were going to blame him for not running hard on a route that wasn't even an option, which is exactly what happened. The "I hate Chris Olave" thread after the game was upvoted like 70 to 0 (I upvoted it myself).
Then to have Carr berating you in a primetime game for something that the entire offense knows is clearly Carrs fault (and after he threw a pick 6) is just a bridge too far for a swaggy young brother like CO12.
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 10/21/23 at 2:31 pm to Olric
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So olave's job is to clear out the safety for the first player in the progression, but he loafed and didn't do that? I don't see how this fact pattern clears him
Right. I don’t think there is a single situation in a NFL football game that half assing a play is the right move. Especially when you are running a route on a pass play.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 3:33 pm to Olric
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So olave's job is to clear out the safety for the first player in the progression, but he loafed and didn't do that? I don't see how this fact pattern clears him
I mean the guy covering Olave doesn't know the progression.
You don't ever slack off on a football field.
Coaches could learn something, or the play can breakdown in any number of ways so you need to be aware and hustling.
If you are an eligible receiver on a play you need to be prepared to make a catch if needed.
The success of a play in football relies on all 11 people doing their job all the time.
Carr fricking up doesn't take someone else off the hook for not doing their job.
Total crap effort from Olave.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 7:19 pm to Olric
The sad part is Taysom was actually open. Carr is just not very good and gun shy. You Carr apologists are sad.
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:58 pm to Olric
I don't have any experience in coaching football or designing plays, so can someone explain to me why a play design would intentionally not have an eligible receiver in the progression at SOME point?
I get it, Olave's responsbility is to clear out the safety. However, what if the safety doesn't clear out, or what if Olave blows past the safety? Why not just have Olave run the route and if he's open he's open and if he's not, he's not?
What we saw Thursday night was literally a waste of an eligible player/receiver.
Seems silly to have him out there running and have him not be a target.
I get it, Olave's responsbility is to clear out the safety. However, what if the safety doesn't clear out, or what if Olave blows past the safety? Why not just have Olave run the route and if he's open he's open and if he's not, he's not?
What we saw Thursday night was literally a waste of an eligible player/receiver.
Seems silly to have him out there running and have him not be a target.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 2:00 pm
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