re: Is the Koran or Quran taken out of context ?

Islam is a vile plague upon the planet. The end. No, it isn't "taken out of context". No, there is no such thing as a "moderate" Muslim.

Until the world comes to grip with this reality and stops trying to play the whole "all cultures are equally valid" stupidity, nothing will be solved.

Islam needs to be marginalized. Yes. There's a ton of them. Cordon them off and don't let them spread. Treat them in your community the exact same way you'd treat a group of Nazis or KKK members.

The Koran tells Muslims it is their duty to Allah to convert infidels to Islam.If they refuse to convert then they should kill them.

I think the particular animosity of the Muslims to the Jews goes back to Ishmael and Isaac,the 2 sons of Abraham.
Muslims believe Ishmael was the ancestor of Mohammed while his half brother Isaac was the patriarch of the Jews.

Ishmael was the son of Abraham by a concubine,Isaac was his son by his wife Sara.
That’s where the animosity started,jealousy of Sara towards Hagar,the concubine. Sarah forced Abraham to banish Hagar and Ishmael to Egypt.

Muslims are a piece of work,the Sunni’s and Shiites hate each other also and that has to do with their disagreement as to should have been the heir to Mohammed.

I bought a translation of the Koran during the Gulf wars to try and understand why Muslims were so willing to die in suicide bombings.
Mohammed painted such a beautiful picture of heaven,with springs of cool,delicious water,fruit trees of every sort and all the young virgins they desired “ to serve their every want and need.”while all they do is recline on silk sofas.
Any Muslim that died in the act of killing infidels went to an elevated level of heaven with the choicest of fruit and “fairest of virgins”” high bosomed maidens”,etc.

Reading all that,I was thinking if I had been born a Muslim and indoctrinated in their beliefs,18-19 year old me would have said hell yes,give me an AK-47 and I’ll go kill as many infidels I could before I got taken out.

Then there are different sects,some stricter than others.The Wahhabi sect of Saudi Arabia is an austere form of Islam and they disdain those that don’t follow their form of Islam.

There are similar parallels in the Christian world,Catholics believe theirs is the only true religion and Peter was the first pope.
Baptists have a whole host of denominations,some austere like the Primitive Baptists that don’t believe in music in church.
Then there are Methodists,Episcopalian,Pentecostals,Jehovah Witnesses,on and on.No telling how many Christian denominations there are.And they all have some level of contempt for those of other religions.

Only difference is they don’t believe in killing those of different religions.

“This the Hadith”

I beg to differ,it,was in the Koran.

“Civil war- brothers killing brothers”
Was that so much about religion as it was about the South’s willingness to secede from the Union to protect slavery that they saw as their economic life blood.

There have been lots of wars over the centuries that were predominately caused by religions,
What I was speaking of was Americans don’t typically kill those of other denominations simply because they are of another religion..
There have been a few deaths caused by bombing of abortion centers but that is rare.

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Psalm 137:9
New International Version
9 Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

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all holy texts have wild passages.

and of course there are plenty of moderate or secular muslims. retarded to assert otherwise.

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It is when paired with The Hadith.

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I think this is where the hate comes from. In their Hadith, it talks about how at the end of times, the Muslims and Jews will go to war. The Jews will hide behind stones but the stones will cry out, "oh believer, there is a Jew behind me. Come here and kill him". Christianity talks about the conversion of the Jews in in Revelations, but it's not done by force.

Also, in the Quran, it says, "O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as guardians—they are guardians of each other. Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people."

Lastly, I don't know if this is true or not, I've never looked, but I was told that Muslims are the only major religion in the world that does not have some form of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" rule.

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I don't know if this is true or not, I've never looked, but I was told that Muslims are the only major religion in the world that does not have some form of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" rule.

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“Not one of you truly believes until you wish for others that which you wish for yourself.”

-The Prophet Mohammed Hadith

“No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.”

-Sunnah Islam

“Do unto all men as you would wish to have done unto you; and reject for others what you would reject for yourself.”

-Hadith, Islam

Here is a Link about the Golden Rule, which seems to be present in every religion from African Animism to Zoroastrianism.

The entire Koran was pulled from Mohammad's rectal aperture as a way to unite his bedouin people under a monotheistic religion because he was tired of them getting their asses kicked by Christians and Jews. No, it's not taken out of context.