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re: True or False: The Jews/Israelites were the first inhabitants of Palestine
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:02 pm to Goonie02
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:02 pm to Goonie02
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Yes. it is recorded even by the Romans who occupied the Levantine Regions. What is modern day Israel/Palestine was a Jewish homeland.
No.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:03 pm to TrueTiger
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Some group 20,000+ years ago that we don't know the identity of
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:04 pm to SCLibertarian
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The vast majority of Jews currently in Israel have been there less than a century. I always laugh at the American Zionists who claim Palestinians aren't a true people but somehow think folks who, prior to 1948, spent centuries in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth or the Habsburg lands in Central Europe have some inherent right to lands in the Middle East.
It kind of is what it is though. I'm not saying it's a great situation but you could make a lot of parallel arguments to the Europeans settling in the Americas. And also the local Palestinian bourgeoisie kind of sold out the lower class natives by continuing to sell their land to European Jewish settlers.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:05 pm to SCLibertarian
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I always laugh at the American Zionists who claim Palestinians aren't a true people but somehow think folks who, prior to 1948, spent centuries in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth or the Habsburg lands in Central Europe have some inherent right to lands in the Middle East.
The Zionists BOUGHT THE LAND...it was worthless UNTIL after 1948 when the Israelis turned desert into farmland.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:07 pm to shutterspeed
I think the point is that there is not one square inch of this planet for which it is possible to identify the “original” inhabitants.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:08 pm to shutterspeed
Who cares? All that matters is who’s the strongest, and Jews/Israelites are far stronger and together than the Muslim/Arabs are. Land has never been decided by who’s right it is to it. All that matters is who’s the most powerful group. The Jews lost the land at one time because the Muslims were a more powerful force at one point in time.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:09 pm to Original Bayou Boy
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.it was worthless UNTIL after 1948 when the Israelis turned desert into farmland.
This is propaganda.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:09 pm to sta4ever
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Land has never been decided by who’s right it is to it. All that matters is who’s the most powerful group. The Jews lost the land at one time because the Muslims were a more powerful force at one point in time.
And they got it back because Germany lost a war. Weird huh.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:11 pm to shutterspeed
to find the first inhabitants , read James Michner "the tell"
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:11 pm to shutterspeed
Palestine was what the Romans called the region after kicking out the bar majority of the Jews following the wars. From the moment the Romans dissolved the Jewish state until it was reformed in 1948 there never was another national polity in the region, and there is an unbroken history of Jewish habitation in the region. It's funny to me that nobody acknowledges that 80% if what was called Palestine is already contained in an Arab state, it's called Jordan, and that the Palestinians and the Jordanians are the same people.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:15 pm to PillPusher
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And they got it back because Germany lost a war. Weird huh.
I mean, it’s not like it was Muslim land anyways. It was British territory. Muslims weren’t a force without the Ottoman Empire. Collapse of the Ottomans was the nail in the coffin for Muslim power.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:15 pm to narddogg81
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Palestine was what the Romans called the region after kicking out the bar majority of the Jews following the wars.
It was called Palestine before that.
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From the moment the Romans dissolved the Jewish state until it was reformed in 1948 there never was another national polity in the region
Well, the concept of a nation state is a modern one. Ancient Israel certainly wasn't one.
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there is an unbroken history of Jewish habitation in the region.
Eh. So what?
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:17 pm to shutterspeed
Does not matter at all. Israel has it now. There is no Palestine.
Hamas leadership needs a few thousand rockets sent into its homes.
We know where they live. Just waste those piles of crap.
Hamas leadership needs a few thousand rockets sent into its homes.
We know where they live. Just waste those piles of crap.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:21 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:Say what?
the concept of a nation state is a modern one. Ancient Israel certainly wasn't one.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:22 pm to shutterspeed
If you start referring to them as Semites or Semitic tribes, you will come closer to finding the answer to your riddle.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:34 pm to Antoninus
quote:No. Not at all. Do you?
Got a problem with Yahweh?
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:34 pm to Antoninus
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Say what?
What was so confusing about what I said?
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:35 pm to mtntiger
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There is no Palestine.
Of course there is.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:36 pm to tigeraddict
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You can only keep that which u can hold……
Then let’s stop allowing the Jews to hold that territory with mass cash injections.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 7:08 pm
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