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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
There is no Muslim world but at least two different groups that are basically at war with each other. Iran, Syria, Lebanon, part of Iraqi, the Shias versus Saudi Arabi and the rest of the Muslims (Sunnis )
Good Article on the split
Good Article on the split
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:29 pm to TutHillTiger
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spit it out because it’s alluded us for 3,000 years or so.
Eh, that's not exactly true. Prior to World War 1 that largest strife in modern day Israel were the crusades almost 1000 years ago. The modern mess we are in is largely the result of the British and French Mandates and the fall of Ottoman Jerusalem.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:30 pm to MrLSU
I’m in idiot and will click other awful links but not a dog being shot.
Unconditional love and all…
Unconditional love and all…
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:30 pm to dawgfan24348
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They literally have no where to go, don’t try to justify war crimes.
They (the Gaza strip) have a land border with Egypt.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:33 pm to TutHillTiger
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There is no Muslim world but at least two different groups that are basically at war with each othe
Sunni vs Shia
Israel vs Sunni/Shia
Kurds vs whoever tries to control them
USA vs a tangled mess
ISIS = Sunni
Al-Qeada = Sunni
Hezbollah= Shia
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:35 pm to NYNolaguy1
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They (the Gaza strip) have a land border with Egypt.
So just illegally cross into Egypt? You’re talking about forcing 2 million people from their homes. Plus it’s not like Israel doesn’t have a history of apartheid with the Palestinians
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:37 pm to dawgfan24348
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They literally have no where to go, don’t try to justify war crimes.
Youre so basic. Jesus christ.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:37 pm to MrLSU
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Iran's goal is to draw the US into a broader conflict: senior intelligence source tells me."
Not really understanding why Iran would want further US involvement. Will they jump into it to fight against Israel? Possibly, but it doesn’t make much sense from Iran’s perspective to want the US to be even more involved
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:37 pm to dawgfan24348
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So just illegally cross into Egypt? You’re talking about forcing 2 million people from their homes. Plus it’s not like Israel doesn’t have a history of apartheid with the Palestinians
So they DO have a place to go?
Say it ain't so.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Youre so basic. Jesus christ.
Roger all your responses to me have always been basic arse insults or insanely barebones takes, at this point I truly believe you’re just a shitty troll
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:38 pm to Fun Bunch
I am struggling to comprehend why Iran (Shia majority) financially backs Hamas (Sunni majority). I may be ignorant but I’ve always thought that the two sects hate each other. Seems odd that Iran would advance its opposition in spite of their views on Israel. Anyone have any recommended reading?
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:38 pm to dawgfan24348
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“Many people have been leaving their homes for places that are apparently safer – a friend in eastern Gaza has 80 relatives and neighbours staying with him in their block. My uncle in Khan Yonis has friends staying with him seeking refuge from their own homes which are on the eastern border [of Gaza].”
Just google dipshit
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:41 pm to NYNolaguy1
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So they DO have a place to go?
So we’re justifying forced removal of people now? You do realize shite like this is why Hamas was even able to gain a following. Violence begets violence, we definitely shouldn’t condone all that violence Hamas has committed as its evil as hell, but at the same time we cannot just trip over ourselves to justify Israel’s own crimes
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:41 pm to dawgfan24348
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You’re talking about forcing 2 million people from their homes.
Historically speaking when one neighbor invades the other, the invaded neighbor tends to fight back and eliminate the threat. If you want to blame someone for the upcoming humanitarian disaster blame Hamas.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:42 pm to dawgfan24348
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So we’re justifying forced removal of people now?
removal =/= people voluntarily leaving the city. Which they are doing, theres plenty of articles discussing it.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:43 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Historically speaking when one neighbor invades the other, the invaded neighbor tends to fight back and eliminate the threat.
Hamas is not all of Gaza, Israel is talking about wiping out Gaza. This merely an opportunity for Israel to continue their own war crimes
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:43 pm to Mushroom1968
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Sunni vs Shia
Israel vs Sunni/Shia
Kurds vs whoever tries to control them
USA vs a tangled mess
ISIS = Sunni
Al-Qeada = Sunni
Hezbollah= Shia
Don't forget the Druze Arabs as both the Sunnis and Shia hate them.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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removal =/= people voluntarily leaving the city.
When the only other option is basically death yeah it kind of is. But like I’ve said Israel isn’t a stranger to killing Palestinians
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:44 pm to Coach Buzzcut
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I am struggling to comprehend why Iran (Shia majority) financially backs Hamas (Sunni majority). I may be ignorant but I’ve always thought that the two sects hate each other. Seems odd that Iran would advance its opposition in spite of their views on Israel. Anyone have any recommended reading?
See my post on the previous page.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:45 pm to dawgfan24348
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So we’re justifying forced removal of people now? You do realize shite like this is why Hamas was even able to gain a following. Violence begets violence, we definitely shouldn’t condone all that violence Hamas has committed as its evil as hell, but at the same time we cannot just trip over ourselves to justify Israel’s own crimes
The simple reality is Israel and Hamas will never exist peacefully together.
If the Palestinians in the Gaza strip continue to support Hamas in their goals then don't be surprised by the outcome.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 2:47 pm
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