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Why do all the Republican noms including Trump/Desantis keep stepping into the trap.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:59 am
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:59 am
Let me preference this by stating first and foremost that I am Pro Life.
We all know that a lot of the suburban women and independent voters that could potentially be swayed to the right are pro choice. In years during Roe V Wade, Republican noms would start make abortion a big part of their platform and we would lose these votes. But now that Toe has been overturned, it is a states right issue as it should have always been and no longer on a federal level.
Yet anytime the talking heads ask Trump or Desantis about the issue they start going on about what they will do thus falling into the trap. Why don’t they just say “Well despite whatever my personal view is, this is a states right issue and up to the individual states to decide how they want to handle”. Then move on to other topics that we can win votes on. The big question about litmus test for Supreme Court justices doesn’t even come into play anymore. On a federal level it’s Non issue so just stay away from it.
We all know that a lot of the suburban women and independent voters that could potentially be swayed to the right are pro choice. In years during Roe V Wade, Republican noms would start make abortion a big part of their platform and we would lose these votes. But now that Toe has been overturned, it is a states right issue as it should have always been and no longer on a federal level.
Yet anytime the talking heads ask Trump or Desantis about the issue they start going on about what they will do thus falling into the trap. Why don’t they just say “Well despite whatever my personal view is, this is a states right issue and up to the individual states to decide how they want to handle”. Then move on to other topics that we can win votes on. The big question about litmus test for Supreme Court justices doesn’t even come into play anymore. On a federal level it’s Non issue so just stay away from it.
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Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:00 am to Kingshakabooboo
We are told that abortion isnt a big deal and Rons 6 week abortion ban would never be used against him. Suburban moms will love that ban
Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:01 am to Kingshakabooboo
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Why don’t they just say “Well despite whatever my personal view is, this is a states right issue and up to the individual states to decide how they want to handle”.
Well because it's potentially a federal issue still, and it's clear by now that the "we just want states' rights" rhetoric of the pro-life crowd wasn't truly sincere. Obviously the Left would be glad to use the federal government to protect abortion, so no need to even discuss that.
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On a federal level it’s Non issue
Wrong. Federal regulation is still in play.
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 8:03 am
Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:02 am to SDVTiger
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and Rons 6 week abortion ban would never be used against him. Suburban moms will love that ban
This was when I started distancing myself from him
Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:02 am to Kingshakabooboo
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Yet anytime the talking heads ask Trump or Desantis about the issue they start going on about what they will do thus falling into the trap. Why don’t they just say “Well despite whatever my personal view is, this is a states right issue and up to the individual states to decide how they want to handle”. Then move on to other topics that we can win votes on. The big question about litmus test for Supreme Court justices doesn’t even come into play anymore. On a federal level it’s Non issue so just stay away from it.
I agree with you but this is a "killing babies" position by Pro-lifers who do not understand federalism and I'm a pro-life supporter and vote for pro-life candidates all the time.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:02 am to SDVTiger
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Suburban moms will love that ban
Only the ones worth making a mother.
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 8:03 am
Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:04 am to imjustafatkid
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Suburban moms will love that ban
Only the ones worth making a mother.
Unfortunately that's probably less than 5% of women.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:22 am to Kingshakabooboo
“Preface”, man.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:22 am to Kingshakabooboo
Republican strategy: It is through agreeing to lose on the issues that we win.
The Democrats are the Harlem Globetrotters snd the GOP is the Washington Generals.
The Democrats are the Harlem Globetrotters snd the GOP is the Washington Generals.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:26 am to GumboPot
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agree with you but this is a "killing babies" position by Pro-lifers who do not understand federalism and I'm a pro-life supporter and vote for pro-life candidates all the time.
That’s my point though. I am also a pro lifer and will also continue to vote for pro life candidates at a state level. I would also prefer a pro life president and like I said they can state they are pro life but leave it at that and let the voters know this is an issue to be decided at the state level.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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and it's clear by now that the "we just want states' rights" rhetoric of the pro-life crowd wasn't truly sincere.
How were we not truly sincere?
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Wrong. Federal regulation is still in play.
How is it still in play?
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:30 am to Kingshakabooboo
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this is a states right issue and up to the individual states
For now, but the next time the Dems control the White House and Congress, they will pass a Federal abortion law. And if they ever control SCOTUS, that law will stay in place for good.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:31 am to GI Jerm
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“Preface”, man.
So, on a topic as important as the sanctity of life, your big take away was a grammatical error.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:31 am to Kingshakabooboo
returning abortion to the States was a win but the GOP establishment are stupid because they are mostly all really democrats.
so they try to go holier than thou Pence to APPEAR that THEY are somebody other than democrats.
so they try to go holier than thou Pence to APPEAR that THEY are somebody other than democrats.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:39 am to Kingshakabooboo
I’d have more to say if it weren’t right up front.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:41 am to GumboPot
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I agree with you but this is a "killing babies" position by Pro-lifers who do not understand federalism and I'm a pro-life supporter and vote for pro-life candidates all the time.
If you'll teach me what federalism is perhaps I'll reverse course on my abortion stance
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:56 am to Kingshakabooboo
quote:Yeah. So long as they don't accomplish anything. Meanwhile, the Left crushes all opposition. Y'all are hilarious.
they can state they are pro life but leave it at that and let the voters know this is an issue to be decided at the state level.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:15 am to Kingshakabooboo
DeSantis has been clear he sees it as a state issue and passing Federal abortion legislation is not a priority. Trump is the idiot who opened the can of worms in his interview and in true Trump fashion instead of admitting a mistake is doubling and tripling down.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:15 am to cajunangelle
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eturning abortion to the States was a win but the GOP establishment are stupid because they are mostly all really democrats.
so they try to go holier than thou Pence to APPEAR that THEY are somebody other than democrats.
Trump is the one trying to make it a Federal issue.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:22 am to GumboPot
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Unfortunately that's probably less than 5% of women.
True enough.
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