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Russel Shepard- ATH
Posted on 11/30/08 at 10:54 am
Posted on 11/30/08 at 10:54 am
I know he wants to play QB and would be perfect for our system, but does anyone else think that hes going to be playing receiver for his first few years? If so it could make the loss of RR not so devastating.
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Posted on 11/30/08 at 10:57 am to LSUfan007700
IF Shep did play receiver, they would be completely different types of receivers.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 10:59 am to LSUfan007700
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If so it could make the loss of RR not so devastating.
link?
Posted on 11/30/08 at 10:59 am to LSUfan007700
I see him being just like Dennis Dixon in Oregon that Crowton tutored!
Posted on 11/30/08 at 11:12 am to LSUfan007700
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I know he wants to play QB and would be perfect for our system, but does anyone else think that hes going to be playing receiver for his first few years?
I think he'll be used like John Chiles has been used at Texas. He'll see 6-8 snaps a game at QB, and probably at least a couple snaps a game at WR simply as a wrinkle.
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If so it could make the loss of RR not so devastating.
If Randle goes elsewhere, the guy lessening that loss would be Randle's former Bastrop teammate - Deangelo Benton. Benton is going to come in as a 6'3" 215 pound, 20 year old freshman. The guy will be an absolute force.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 1:30 pm to Stagg8
Josh Reed but with more moves
Posted on 11/30/08 at 2:05 pm to Purplehaze
I know he can do great stuff, and I hope the miles will trust him early
Posted on 11/30/08 at 2:06 pm to LSUfan007700
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Josh Reed but with more moves
Posted on 11/30/08 at 2:42 pm to Stagg8
quote:chiles problem is he couldnt out play colt. we have no incumbent stud for shep to dethrone. and chiles is not in RS's class as a playmaker
I think he'll be used like John Chiles has been used at Texas. He'll see 6-8 snaps a game at QB, and probably at least a couple snaps a game at WR simply as a wrinkle
Posted on 11/30/08 at 2:44 pm to LSUfan007700
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but does anyone else think that hes going to be playing receiver for his first few years?
No. How could that possibly help his development as our field general?
Will there be plays in the Wild Tiger where he splits out wide?: yes. Heck, J Lee split out wide a few times, but will he play WR?: no.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 2:46 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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chiles problem is he couldnt out play colt. we have no incumbent stud for shep to dethrone. and chiles is not in RS's class as a playmaker
Jordan Jefferson will be the incumbent starter for Shepard to beat out. Jefferson has a stronger arm, a bigger frame, and will have been in the system for 5 and a half more months with actual PT in 2 regular season games and a bowl game.
The great thing for Shepard is that he's coming in January which gives him a shot to be more than just a change of pace, but what I was trying to explain in the original post was that even if he is used as a WR a couple of snaps a game, it's nothing more than a wrinkle in the offense. He'll be a QB, and he'll give Crowton that spread option guy that he's been coveting.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 2:49 pm to Stagg8
quote:whys that? hes 0-2 in games hes played in so far. he shows ability, but to set his name in stone as the starter is a bit premature, IMO
Jordan Jefferson will be the incumbent starter
Posted on 11/30/08 at 2:50 pm to Stagg8
I hope he's more than just a change of pace QB. He runs like a wide receiver not a quarterback. We can use him for a lot of stuff besides wildcat
Posted on 11/30/08 at 2:53 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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hes 0-2 in games hes played in so far
Please tell me you're not this short-sighted. We're not 0-2 because of Jordan Jefferson. He's played extremely well. quote:
he shows ability, but to set his name in stone as the starter is a bit premature, IMO
Okay, so when Spring practice rolls around... given the way the three guys have performed this season... and considering that Shep would have never taken a snap in college ball (and mind you, he's probably never taken a snap from under center)... who is your starting QB?
Posted on 11/30/08 at 2:57 pm to Stagg8
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20 year old freshman
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:07 pm to LSUfan007700
I would like to think he'll be on the field somewhere.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:10 pm to Stagg8
quote:extremely well gets us a first down in the 4th quarter. 2 loses may not be entirely his fault, but he sure didnt do enough to win either game(the ark game specifically).
He's played extremely well.
quote:ohio state benched a QB who helped them win a conference championship and a BCSCG berth. they saw they were limited with beockman and sacrificed this year, played a true frosh with a ton of ability, to set up the next few years. we dont have a QB half as good as todd beockman.
Okay, so when Spring practice rolls around... given the way the three guys have performed this season... and considering that Shep would have never taken a snap in college ball (and mind you, he's probably never taken a snap from under center)... who is your starting QB?
quote:this isnt the pros... so i dont see how this matters
and mind you, he's probably never taken a snap from under center
Posted on 11/30/08 at 3:13 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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ohio state benched a QB who helped them win a conference championship and a BCSCG berth. they saw they were limited with beockman and sacrificed this year, played a true frosh with a ton of ability, to set up the next few years. we dont have a QB half as good as todd beockman.
First off... who started the season at QB? Boeckman or Pryor?
Secondly, you're sort of bashing Jefferson, but the fact of the matter is Jefferson has looked better than Pryor throwing the ball this year. If you watch OSU games, you'll see just how skeptical OSU is of Pryor's ability in the passing game.
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this isnt the pros... so i dont see how this matters
LSU still runs quite a bit of the offense from under center.
This post was edited on 11/30/08 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 11/30/08 at 7:00 pm to Stagg8
quote:boeckman... until they decided he wasnt the long term solution. why make this mistake if we can avoid it before it happens?
First off... who started the season at QB? Boeckman or Pryor?
quote:i stated he has looked ok. he ran bootlegs well the other day. but i would hardly call 9/21 143yds 6.8avg 2td/0int passing and 19 rushes for 50yds 2.6avg 0td anything irreplaceble. lets just say peyton manning wouldnt be proud of that stat line.
Secondly, you're sort of bashing Jefferson
quote:his record and the statistics disagree
Jefferson has looked better than Pryor throwing the ball
2008: 95/152 1245yds 62.5completion % 8.19ypa 12td/4int espn
quote:they wont need to if they have a true spread QB. just b/c jarrett lee runs a 5.0 40 is not a reason shep will take snaps under center
LSU still runs quite a bit of the offense from under center.
i dont know what we are really arguing over. nothing hatch/j-lee/JJ has done so far makes them deserving of the first team snaps in the spring, AS OF RIGHT NOW. i want the same as you(i think)-- a qb, whoever it is, to step up and play great for our tigahs. i personally think it will be a true freshman next year. hes special. mentally ready and physically gifted. i would rather go 9-3 or 8-4 next year so we can go 11-1 the next 2 years rather then going 10-2 for 3 years, struggeling through back breaking j-lee pick 6s.
Posted on 11/30/08 at 7:42 pm to kjanchild
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I see him being just like Dennis Dixon in Oregon that Crowton tutored!
chip kelly made dixon. crowton almost derailed dixon
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