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re: People voted "against Trump"...Prove it
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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From one of the recent Trump Loyalist polls, 30% of Republicans aren't sure they'll vote Meatball if he's the nominee or will outright vote for Biden. That number drops to 12% if Trump is the nominee. Seems to indicate that Trump Loyalists are your "idiots."
You dont help his cause. At all.
DeSantis would probably pay you to shite the frick up.
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:37 pm to SlimTigerSlap
quote:Or you could just answer the question. Or admit it's a stupid statement to make in defending the number of votes Biden got
Please don't ask leading questions if you want a response
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:46 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:You keep using the word "data." First, you have no idea whether it's anything tied to the real world. It could be completely fabricated for all you know. Second, it's a cross section, not an exit interview of every person who voted meaning, they can't possibly capture what percentage of people voted against Trump because we already know many of the mail-in ballots were fraudulent or at least problematic. Third, you don't know how the details of the poll were executed. You're just trusting that they were geniune.
encourage you to start looking at some data
quote:You just gave one.
I don't have enough information to justify completely ignoring this data point
quote:I don't have to prove the number is any sort of percentage. All we have to do is ask questions to know that polls are often propagandized.
If you believe the number is 0%, please provide proof
quote:We've well established that you have a low bar
I'm satisfied that it's sufficient to make my point
quote:Yet on this point you admitted you are wrong. You did not collect the data yourself nor did you even cite a poll that captured every voter so you have no idea what the "data" even means. You don't even know if it's actual "data" and not propaganda. I'm not sure you even understand the point of the OP. You should evaluate your hubris because, frankly, it sucks.
When I make a point, I have absolute confidence that I'm correct because I've already done the research and can support my assertions with data and reason.
quote:Then we probably shouldn't be trying to use it as evidence of anything, especially given that we know mail-in ballots were tampered with.
Well, yes
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:48 pm to blueboxer1119
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You dont help his cause. At all.
DeSantis would probably pay you to shite the frick up
You mean what Displaced says can affect your choice of candidate? That's embarrassing.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:49 pm to Obtuse1
quote:I most certainly am not and I have explained the purpose of the question in the OP. Perhaps you didn't understand it
Both you (assuming not sarcasm) and the OP are misconstruing the concept that people voted against Trump
quote:Ladies and gentlemen - I present to you the NARRATIVE in all its glory!
Trump is one of the most polarizing figures in 21st-century US national politics. People either love him or hate him and there are very few people that are ambivalent towards him as a person. Those high-attendance rallies and the boat and car parades are part of the reasons that people got off their arse and voted for someone that they normally wouldn't have. It is very much like a lot of people voted against Hillary in 2016.
quote:I'm fascinated that you were so easily duped by the MSM in to believing that trash narrative. We have no idea how many people actually voted against Trump yet, that idiotic idea is still being repeated even though it's been torn to shreds
I don't know how anyone can be so oblivious to the visceral hate a large part of the population has regarding Trump. Hell, it is a big part of the draw for people that love him
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:49 pm to TheQuestion
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Says the person who admitted it can't be proven
Which of course further proves that you're useless. Why are you asking people to prove things that can't be proven?
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:51 pm to Powerman
quote:Wow you are obtuse. I am not the person making the claim. I am asking how anyone actually knows this and how it adds up to any significant amount of votes for Biden like people claim when trying to defend evidence of election irregularities. It's absurd and you continue to prove you don't even understand the point.
Which of course further proves that you're useless. Why are you asking people to prove things that can't be proven?
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:55 pm to TheQuestion
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We have no idea how many people actually voted against Trump yet, that idiotic idea is still being repeated even though it's been torn to shreds
But they told us this happened. No polls to back it up, just believe it.
With the 20-30 million more votes than the previous elections, there must have been 100% of first-time voters voting against PDJT even though his own votes increased by 10 million?
Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. - Colonel Fletcher.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:25 pm to TheQuestion
So despised he grew with all demographics but one.
And people don't turn out to vote against someone. That has never happened in the history of elections.
And people don't turn out to vote against someone. That has never happened in the history of elections.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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From one of the recent Trump Loyalist polls, 30% of Republicans aren't sure they'll vote Meatball if he's the nominee or will outright vote for Biden.
Link, dipshite? No way any true MAGA will vote *Biden.
You truly do not get it do you?
It is not only about PDJT. How naive you are.
Carry on.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:30 pm to blueboxer1119
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You dont help his cause. At all.
I don't care about that. It's his job to get elected, not mine, and anyone swayed away from Meatball by anything I've ever posted is a retard.
What my post shows, is that you frickers are exactly who I've been saying you are for seven years. You aren't getting away from that.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:31 pm to Speckhunter2012
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Link, dipshite? No way any true MAGA will vote *Biden.
You truly do not get it do you?
It is not only about PDJT. How naive you are.
Carry on.
frick off.
It's in one of the polls you dumbass motherfrickers use to beg Meatball to drop out. Go find it, champ.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:32 pm to Speckhunter2012
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No polls to back it up, just believe it.
There have been at least four polls referenced in this thread alone to back that up.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:38 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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There have been at least four polls referenced in this thread alone to back that up.
Sorry, dude. I got a job and wasn't privy to the so-called polls by CNN or whomever to support your narrative.
Settle this BS once and for all. PDJT will be the nominee. Who are you voting for in the General?
The rest is theater. You know it as well.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:39 pm to TheQuestion
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You keep using the word "data." First, you have no idea whether it's anything tied to the real world. It could be completely fabricated for all you know. Second, it's a cross section, not an exit interview of every person who voted meaning, they can't possibly capture what percentage of people voted against Trump because we already know many of the mail-in ballots were fraudulent or at least problematic. Third, you don't know how the details of the poll were executed. You're just trusting that they were geniune.
You desperately need to look into how exit polls are conducted. As I've said, I've looked at data from multiple sources and their methodology. I'm satisfied that it serves my needs in this thread. You throwing out empty assertions like "could be" and "might be" means nothing to me.
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You just gave one.
No, I didn't.
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I don't have to prove the number is any sort of percentage. All we have to do is ask questions to know that polls are often propagandized.
Neither do I. Crazy, right?
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Yet on this point you admitted you are wrong. You did not collect the data yourself nor did you even cite a poll that captured every voter so you have no idea what the "data" even means. You don't even know if it's actual "data" and not propaganda. I'm not sure you even understand the point of the OP. You should evaluate your hubris because, frankly, it sucks.
None of this is accurate. I've been correct in every post I've made. All you can fall back to is "you can't know because you didn't personally talk to every person who voted." That's weak and it's idiotic.
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Then we probably shouldn't be trying to use it as evidence of anything...
Why? Those people are still voters, no matter how much you dislike it or try to pretend they aren't.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:39 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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You mean what Displaced says can affect your choice of candidate? That's embarrassing.
Im not simple minded, so no.
I can't be influenced.
There are retards everywhere though, so it happens.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:41 pm to Speckhunter2012
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I got a job
Congrats?
quote:
so-called polls by CNN or whomever to support your narrative
Four. Four different sources. Just in this thread.
Nice try.
quote:
Settle this BS once and for all. PDJT will be the nominee. Who are you voting for in the General?
I'll worry about that when the primary is over.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:42 pm to TheQuestion
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Recent exit polling data from Morning Consult suggests 44% of Biden voters cast their votes for the Democratic nominee as a vote “against” Trump, rather than in support of the former vice president.
LINK
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Likewise, just over half are either happy (25%) or satisfied (26%) about Biden’s victory, while just over 4 in 10 are dissatisfied (29%) or angry (15%). Among Biden voters, 57% say they are happy that their choice won, but even more (73%) are happy that Trump lost.
LINK
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:46 pm to Mephistopheles
Bro, stop. That’s not acceptable evidence. The only thing TheQuestion accepts are videos and estimates of crowd sizes. Those are very scientific.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:51 pm to Speckhunter2012
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With the 20-30 million more votes than the previous elections, there must have been 100% of first-time voters voting against PDJT even though his own votes increased by 10 million?
This pretty much sums it up. No data points needed ,it simply didn't happen. You don't gain millions more votes because your hated. Trump is hated by the uniparty not America. This dumb argument is moot Biden did not in any way shape or form get 81 million votes. If you want to talk about someone who is hated by the country look no further than the current installment in the white house.
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