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People voted "against Trump"...Prove it
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:09 pm
It's amazing how frequently this mind-reading, MSM-based narrative is still being stated. Trump had more votes than any previous candidate and STILL draws thousands of people to rallies. Whereas Biden votes largely came from problematic, hard-to-verify, easy-to-corrupt mail in ballots.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 4:33 pm
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Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:11 pm to TheQuestion
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:11 pm to TheQuestion
Maybe look at polling data or talk to people that aren't in your bubble. He is the most despised politician of the modern era.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:15 pm to Lou Pai
quote:
polling data
Laughable that anyone puts ANY stock into polls quote:Like me starting this thread on an open forum with people like you? If you have proof that people voted "against Trump" without referring to mind reading or polls, let's see it.
talk to people that aren't in your bubble
quote:Sigh. Who received more votes than any previous candidate and still draws thousands of people to rallies. You are mistaken and I invite you to prove your point
He is the most despised politician of the modern era
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:29 pm to TheQuestion
His net favorable rating has been terrible since his presidency. He has always been underwater with Independents. But if you think all polls are garabge then that's certainly your prerogative.
Ironically, your hero loves to talk about polls.
This forum is beyond an echo chamber at this point
I'm suggesting that you talk to independents. I live in a major city and have talked to independents who say they voted against Trump rather than for Biden. I think that is the wrong move but it's the reality of the situation. He's a polarizing personality.
Ironically, your hero loves to talk about polls.
quote:
Like me starting this thread on an open forum with people like you
This forum is beyond an echo chamber at this point
I'm suggesting that you talk to independents. I live in a major city and have talked to independents who say they voted against Trump rather than for Biden. I think that is the wrong move but it's the reality of the situation. He's a polarizing personality.
This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:31 pm to Lou Pai
Ahhhhh so the polling data that fits your narrative is legit but the ones that don’t are trash. Interesting.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:33 pm to TheQuestion
quote:So what states did the polling botch in 2020?
Laughable that anyone puts ANY stock into polls
Bueller?
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:35 pm to Bunk Moreland
Virginia? Have you looked at a map recently? Of course, they will always go with the uni-party.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:51 pm to Lou Pai
quote:Yes. Polls are garbage. The man continues to kill it in person with rally attendance.
His net favorable rating has been terrible since his presidency. He has always been underwater with Independents. But if you think all polls are garabge then that's certainly your prerogative
quote:I couldn't care less. Polls are stupid.
Ironically, your hero loves to talk about polls.
quote:...said while disagreeing with the "echo chamber" thus proving it's not an echo chamber
This forum is beyond an echo chamber at this point
quote:If I did, it would be anecdotal and not proof of anything so it's pointless for you to suggest it. I can see with my own eyes that Trump is still wildly popular.
I'm suggesting that you talk to independents
quote:How does this serve as proof of anything?
I live in a major city and have talked to independents who say they voted against Trump rather than for Biden
quote:While true, it doesn't relate to the point
He's a polarizing personality
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:53 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:
So what states did the polling botch in 2020?
Depends on which poll you are referring to. How about this, show which polls are always accurate. Also, how do polls prove people voted against Trump?
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:08 pm to TheQuestion
quote:
Prove it
It's amazing how frequently this mind-reading, MSM-based narrative is still being stated. Trump had more votes than any previous candidate and STILL draws thousands of people to rallies. Whereas Biden votes largely came from problematic, hard-to-verify, easy-to-corrupt mail in ballots.
Every swing state that used mass mail in ballot harvesting and Zucker Boxes also used the ERIC system. This system allowed the Dim election technicians the ability to know how many potential Dim ballots were available for their ballot harvesting scheme, it worked beautifully, that's how you get 81 million votes for a cognitively impaired career politician named Biden.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:16 pm to TheQuestion
quote:I think you need a primer on what polls are, how they're conducted and what they show before you go about asking any more questions on the topic
Depends on which poll you are referring to. How about this, show which polls are always accurate.
quote:See above, but a logical person would look at the fact that state-level polling aggregates didn't miss a race in 2020 and find it reasonable to conclude that they were aligned with reality
Also, how do polls prove people voted against Trump?
Unless of course someone is convinced that the cheating collusion extends to pollsters, in which case there's medication for that
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:18 pm to TheQuestion
Democrats voted against him.
No need for further analysis. Even though it wouldn’t be a problem.
No need for further analysis. Even though it wouldn’t be a problem.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:18 pm to TheQuestion
quote:
Yes. Polls are garbage. The man continues to kill it in person with rally attendance.
quote:Hate to disappoint but rally attendance is pretty fricking anecdotal compared to properly conducted sampling
If I did, it would be anecdotal
quote:It translates into votes against him
While true, it doesn't relate to the point
This cannot be a real person
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:37 pm to TheQuestion
Spot on!!! It’s impossible to argue hoards of people voted against Trump when he brought 13 million NEW voters to the Republican Party.
Only people buying into propaganda would believe such a thing.
Let’s say 6 million of those New Republican votes previously voted for Obama as part of his all time high of 69 million votes.
So, Joe has a staring point of 63 million voters… and some how, garnered 18 million NEW voters while putting a lid on his entire campaign.
It’s pure delusion!
Only people buying into propaganda would believe such a thing.
Let’s say 6 million of those New Republican votes previously voted for Obama as part of his all time high of 69 million votes.
So, Joe has a staring point of 63 million voters… and some how, garnered 18 million NEW voters while putting a lid on his entire campaign.
It’s pure delusion!
This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:38 pm to TheQuestion
quote:Can't believe this has to be said but you can't record people voting with an accompanying audio snippet of “I voted against Trump”
If you have proof that people voted "against Trump" without referring to mind reading or polls, let's see it.
I’m absolutely fascinated to think about what other proof you would even consider on this topic
This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:07 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:Again, this is disingenuous because polls are manipulated and can't read minds
See above, but a logical person would look at the fact that state-level polling aggregates didn't miss a race in 2020 and find it reasonable to conclude that they were aligned with reality
quote:No it absolutely is not anecdoctal because we can see the attendees live. You can't see the people who were participating in a poll. The results are completely opaque
Hate to disappoint but rally attendance is pretty fricking anecdotal compared to properly conducted sampling
quote:You might want to look in a mirror
I think you need a primer on what polls are, how they're conducted and what they show before you go about asking any more questions on the topic
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:14 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:So no one can prove people voted against Trump yet, it continues to be perpetuated. OTOH, we saw plenty of Trump supporters voting on election day and we know many of Trump's votes were counted on election day whereas Biden's votes came from mysterious, clandestine mail in ballots that had little to no transparency. Trump had more votes than any previous candidate and still draws exponentially more people at rallies. IOW, Trump's proof is visible and easy to verify. Biden's is not and corrupt govt officials have lied and covered up and obfuscated and resisted independent oversight.
Can't believe this has to be said but you can't record people voting with an accompanying audio snippet of “I voted against Trump”
But let's keep saying that "people voted against Trump"
quote:I'm absolutely fascinated that people keep perpetuating this media fueled narrative with no proof whatsoever as if it somehow validates Biden's "win"
I’m absolutely fascinated to think about what other proof you would even consider on this topic
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:17 pm to TheQuestion
He won the election on pre Covid, traditional in person and early voting.
He lost on drop box and mail ins, millions of which were harvested. This isn’t arguable.
He lost on drop box and mail ins, millions of which were harvested. This isn’t arguable.
This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:20 pm to TheQuestion
quote:
Laughable that anyone puts ANY stock into polls
Exit polling is wildly different from election polling.
By the way, given your username, your questions are incredibly idiotic.
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