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How are condos a good deal?

Posted on 8/26/23 at 3:20 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70767 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 3:20 pm
Most I see have notes already approaching traditional homes. Add in HOA fees and the risk of assessments alongwith the tradeoffs of non-traditional homes, how do these make good investments vs. a traditional house?
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12871 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 3:30 pm to
Meh, the fees paid to the condo association and the assessments are generally for things like insurance, landscaping, maintenance, etc. that you would have to pay as an owner of a house. Like anything else, it depends on the condo. Some are problematic. Some are very nice and appreciate well.
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2833 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 4:54 pm to
Condos are only as good as their associations and reserves.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37153 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 5:06 pm to
Extremely variable.

If you have great management the HOA stays in their lane and keeps costs under control then it can be a reasonable value.

The opposite is a real danger. Assessments, harassment from the HOA (including fines), and escalating monthly HOA dues can destroy value.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45174 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 5:08 pm to
I'll never invest in an HOA. One bad president and they will make your life a nightmare
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
46136 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 5:59 pm to
I bought one for 113k in 2017, lived there for 6 years, sold for 160k now, HOA was just over 200 something a month.

Much better financially off than I would have been renting. I had a pool and most outside maintenance taken care of by the HOA.

If you want apartment type living, it’s a great deal if you can get the right one.
This post was edited on 8/26/23 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
9110 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 6:18 pm to
If you were able to buy one cheap enough with a good HOA then you have a cash cow. Get one with a bad HOA and it doesn’t matter if you got the unit for free they will break you.

There are lots of folks in the Orange Beach/Gulf Shores area learning a lesson about differed maintenance right now
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12871 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 6:26 pm to
Most people don’t even understand what they are buying with a condo. Yes, you own your individual unit, but you also have an undivided ownership interest in the whole property. The owners are responsible for maintaining the overall structure. If you have a high rise at the beach, you better be on top of maintaining that structure. That one that collapsed in south FL is an example of what can happen.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77835 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 8:09 pm to
A condo/townhouse with no HOA is a valuable investment property. They’re hard to find but believe it or not, they do exist.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3572 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

How are condos a good deal?
can be great investment of something other than money. memories and time together. in your last years on earth, I doubt you'll be thinking about the money. It will be times you had with your kids and grandkids
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26045 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:08 am to
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Much better financially off than I would have been renting. I had a pool and most outside maintenance taken care of by the HOA.

If you want apartment type living, it’s a great deal if you can get the right one.


I've been looking at condos for my sophomore in college.

College in Georgia is cheap. Room and board is the expense.

I agree with your take completely.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4989 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:26 am to
Harder to finance as well.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
3099 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 8:48 am to
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A condo/townhouse with no HOA is a valuable investment property.



How does that even work? Like who pays for the outside manteinance.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37276 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:28 am to
I love my condo. Been here about 7 years

Value has gone up tremendously in that time frame .

We have an active HOA group that isn’t overbearing but invested in the collective investment

Our HOA manager is very nice and any issues I email her and she is very prompt

Our HOA fee is $275 monthly including all landscaping/ fiber internet/tv/security /pest control/water/outside insurance and maintenance

It’s very reasonable given all that we get for it .

I can’t speak for the shittey condos and HOA from hell experiences as I have dealt with the opposite .
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4649 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:43 am to
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Condos are only as good as their associations and reserves.


Truer words never spoken
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77835 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 11:05 am to
LINK

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How does that even work? Like who pays for the outside manteinance.



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If the unit owners have no shared responsibilities then there will be no HOA or fees. A townhouse can be thought of like the strange hybrid offspring of a condo and a single family home.


This post was edited on 8/27/23 at 11:06 am
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70767 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:00 pm to
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Condos are only as good as their associations and reserves.


How do you know before purchasing that you're actually getting into one of these?
Posted by TigerGrl73
Nola
Member since Jan 2004
21427 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:02 pm to
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How do you know before purchasing that you're actually getting into one of these?

Look at the condo docs (bylaws, rules, etc), annual meeting/board meeting minutes, and financials. Reviewing those will give you a lot of information.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61309 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:06 am to
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can be great investment of something other than money. memories and time together. in your last years on earth, I doubt you'll be thinking about the money. It will be times you had with your kids and grandkids




All good points, but condos are in cities and for normal people living everyday lives as well. It's not just a place on a beach that is being discussed here.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2939 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:59 am to
The Rule of 10 $500K in cost...$50K gross rental ....not likely any more.
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