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re: Gas Stoves. Now Ceiling Fans?
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:36 pm to Texas Weazel
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:36 pm to Texas Weazel
quote:Your answer to my question is very reminiscent of the time back when the Feds proposed new light bulb efficiency standards prohibiting incandescent light bulbs in favor of LED bulbs.
Is that bad?
Yes because this means most manufacturers are just going to limit the speed of their fans in order to meet these "green" requirements. And those who do find a way of making their fans more efficient will likely be selling fans that don't last as long at a premium (which ends up being more wasteful).
The usual tin foil hat wearers were apoplectic saying the new bulbs would come with chips recording our private conversations, would never last as long as the old glowing element bulbs, would cause house fires, would damage existing electrical wiring, wouldn't be bright enough to light a room....yada, yada, yada.
I switched all my home's light fixtures and lamps to LED bulbs 5 or 6 years ago and I really like them. I can't remember the last time I had to change a burnt-out bulb.
Even my outside flood lights are LED and they are brighter, and "whiter," than the old flood light bulbs. The LED bulbs create almost no heat, which is really nice on these 100+ degree summer days and my A/C is running almost non-stop during the day time as it is.
Sometimes I think people just hate change so much they'll gripe about anything...
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:55 pm to LSURussian
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The usual tin foil hat wearers were apoplectic saying the new bulbs would come with chips recording our private conversations, would never last as long as the old glowing element bulbs, would cause house fires, would damage existing electrical wiring, wouldn't be bright enough to light a room....yada, yada, yada.
I switched all my home's light fixtures and lamps to LED bulbs 5 or 6 years ago and I really like them. I can't remember the last time I had to change a burnt-out bulb.
I also have all LED bulbs and agree they're fantastic
I think the complaint was the intermediate tech with the fluorescent light bulbs.
This might be an unnecessary regulation but it's not something that's worth throwing a fit over.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:03 pm to LSURussian
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I switched all my home's light fixtures and lamps to LED bulbs 5 or 6 years ago and I really like them. I can't remember the last time I had to change a burnt-out bulb.
I change out burned LED's all the time. The LED COBs might be rated for tens of thousands of hours but the driver circuitry isn't.
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The LED bulbs create almost no heat,
That's also bullshite. I have thermal images of LED bulbs well over 120F at the base where the driver circuits are housed, that's why large LED bulbs have heat sinks built into them.
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Sometimes I think people just hate change so much they'll gripe about anything...
I think people, like you, buy into stuff because they are fundamentally uneducated and don't grasp much beyond what their simple minds can process. LED's use less total wattage but take vastly more energy to create, ship, and are more problematic as landfill waste. A conventional incandescent bulb requires only a fraction of the mass to create, and will eventually break down into insignificant materials and oxides. LED bulbs will be dug up mostly intact centuries from now but the dimbulbs of humanity are patting themselves on their backs because of how environmentally conscious they are for mandating/using them.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:12 pm to LSURussian
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The usual tin foil hat wearers were apoplectic saying the new bulbs would come with chips recording our private conversations, would never last as long as the old glowing element bulbs, would cause house fires, would damage existing electrical wiring, wouldn't be bright enough to light a room....yada, yada, yada.
I don't recall a single person saying any of these things.
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I switched all my home's light fixtures and lamps to LED bulbs 5 or 6 years ago and I really like them. I can't remember the last time I had to change a burnt-out bulb.
You want people to believe you haven't changed a light bulb in over 5 years?
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:25 pm to LSURussian
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Your answer to my question is very reminiscent of the time back when the Feds proposed new light bulb efficiency standards prohibiting incandescent light bulbs in favor of LED bulbs.
I love my LED bulbs. They last a very long time, but they also burn cool which prevents fixture heat damage.
That being said, some people's electric power is not clean and it kills LED bulbs very quickly. For them, incandescent is the only choice.
Government "one size fits all" is often a dumb mistake.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:26 pm to LSURussian
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Your answer to my question is very reminiscent of the time back when the Feds proposed new light bulb efficiency standards prohibiting incandescent light bulbs in favor of LED bulbs.
We were discussing the exact thing at work and came to the same conclusion, LED lights are much better and the cost isn’t higher than the old bulbs.
But why was the government involved?
LEDs should have won out in a free market because the price is right now and they are better in every way.
I think the government getting involved with toilets undercut their position on a lot if things. People don’t trust them when it comes to consumer products.
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