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re: Wildfires in Louisiana

Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by SwampBooty
Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2015
740 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:49 pm to
Does anyone have any insight to how these timber insurance policies are paid out assuming the fires are started by cigarette/people being dumbasses? I would assume the policy would pay. But I’m sure these companies collected some off of hurricanes in 2020 and we all know insurance will look for any clause to not pay.
I guess federal funding could kick in if not
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48691 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:54 pm to
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I’m glad you were here to justify his actions.


You are really a girl, aren't you? You have it stuck in your feminine mind that I am here to justify his actions when that is not the case at all.

Go away, son. We're surrounded by wildfires up here and we don't have time to trifle with you. Go grind your axe somewhere else.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40255 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:54 pm to
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Mandatory Evac of Merryville La
All residents, whole town, mandatory evac due to wildfires



To any of the residents affected and possibly reading this. Please don't be like those ppl that stay after mandatory evacuations for hurricanes. Wildfires are not like hurricanes. There is no we're staying and riding it out because we rode out insert hurricane name here years ago. Fire don't play. Grab your kids and pets and GTFO.

ETA: Prayers sent and has anyone posted a link for donations to help those affected?
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4303 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:55 pm to
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how do they survive controlled burns


Controlled burns are typically conducted in winter and early spring. Once the cambium (inside of tree) reaches a certain temp the tree will die. Burning in cooler weather and decent winds keeps them from getting too hot while killing understory vegetation. The fires are also set in burn blocks so they can be kept in check.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4119 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:58 pm to
Makes sense
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167874 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:01 pm to
This dude is F'd



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Sheriff Sam Craft announces the Thursday, August 25th, arrest of Paul Nash, age 59, of Rosepine.

The arrest is the result of a large woods fire in the Providence area which resulted in the loss of two mobile homes, an undetermined amount of timber acreage, and the mandatory evacuation of the area.

At approximately 3:45 p.m. on Thursday afternoon, the Vernon Parish Sheriff’s Office received a complaint in the Providence area, regarding an individual illegally burning in violation of the state wide burn ban.

Upon arrival at the residence located on B. Johnson Road, Deputies observed a trash pile burning in a yard at the location.

The fire had already gotten out of control and had spread into a heavily wooded area near several residences.

The burn pile was located in the yard of the residence of Paul Nash.

VPSO Deputies and Detectives, Fire Department Personnel, and Forestry Service Personnel responded to the area where the fire was out of control.

Deputy Tyler Sandell was able to assist a female and her animals out of one of the mobile homes which was quickly becoming engulfed by the fire. We commend Deputy Sandell for his selfless service and bravery during this dangerous situation.

Witnesses identified Paul Nash as the person responsible for the starting the fire.

Nash was taken into custody at the scene and charged with one count of Illegal burning in violation of a burn ban, one count of Fire raising on lands of another by criminal negligence, and one count of Negligent Arson. Bond has been set at $ 13,000.00. Nash remains in the VPSO jail.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40255 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:11 pm to
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Sheriff Sam Craft announces the Thursday, August 25th, arrest of Paul Nash, age 59, of Rosepine.



Good for Sheriff Craft. I am not going to name the parish, the sheriff, or the farmer involved but last weekend I was driving through NELA and farmers were burning fields right next to a national wildlife refugee even though there has been a burn ban in place for weeks. Diesel is expensive and farmers would rather risk starting a wildfire in a national refugee than pay for the diesel to make an extra trip across the ground with a disk. It's an election year so the local sheriff isn't doing anything about it accept asking for campaign donations from said farmers.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14230 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:21 pm to
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Did not know that, thanks. Question though, how do they survive controlled burns? Sincere question
high roller answered, I’d add to his answer in addition using fire to remove hardwood and other undesirable understory competition for the crop trees (pine), fuel load reduction is also a main goal, which helps to prevent wildfires.

A good example of burned mature pine forests on public land can be seen in parts of Kisatchie.
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4303 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:21 pm to
Up until today, farmers were allowed to burn with a permit from LDAF. New rules today changed that I believe.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40255 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

ow do they survive controlled burns


Controlled burns are typically conducted in winter and early spring. Once the cambium (inside of tree) reaches a certain temp the tree will die. Burning in cooler weather and decent winds keeps them from getting too hot while killing understory vegetation. The fires are also set in burn blocks so they can be kept in check.



There are also professional tree workers (I do not know their official title) and firefighters monitoring the burn with the equipment needed to control the fire on hand during the burn.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14230 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:22 pm to
Blue stain as well.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40255 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:23 pm to
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Up until today, farmers were allowed to burn with a permit from LDAF. New rules today changed that I believe.



I did not know that but it is still stupid to burn next to a national wildlife refugee.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55447 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:25 pm to
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State police posted this link. I had no idea there were that many fires out west. What's happening here is terrible, and I've been worried sick about my relatives in the Singer area, but this map gives some perspective as to why this isn't national news


And you'll only really hear about the fires that get big enough to be reported to the various tracking outlets. Many fires will burn small acreage, be put out, or burn itself out, and never be tracked. Resources are used to greater or lesser degree on all of them. Every fire of any significance will have a running tally price tag attached to it. The amount of money that goes into wildland firefighting yearly will blow your mind.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 2:26 pm
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4303 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:26 pm to
Correct there are foresters with spray rigs and other heavy equipment monitoring until fire is done.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38874 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:32 pm to
According to VPSO (Vernon Parish Sheriffs Office) more fires have popped up in the last hour or so...

Just North of Leesville coming in town on 117 from Kisatchi.

quote:

First responders are at the location of a wildfire on Highway 117 in the area of Bolgiano Loop.


Pitkin fire flared back up.

quote:

First responders are back on location in the area of Cooters Bog on Highway 463 in the Pitkin area.


This is close to Pickering and the main gates at Ft. Polk I believe.

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Deputies and First Responders are on the scene of a fire in the area of Graham Road.
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
15507 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:34 pm to
Damn, That site is a rabbit hole. Thank You for sharing.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98678 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:51 pm to
I'm approx 125 miles away from the fire. It's very hazy here. At noon it looked like late afternoon. There's a faint smell of smoke. Not real strong but it's there.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11554 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

quote: The hunting will be phenomenal in a couple years. Why’s that


The browse that will regrow will be bountiful and attract lots of wildlife. Fires are great for forest management
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55447 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:09 pm to
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The browse that will regrow will be bountiful and attract lots of wildlife. Fires are great for forest management

They are as long as an area hasn't been overrun with non-native grasses and woody plants. Their seeds tend to germinate quicker, grow faster, and shade out native grass and wildflower/weed species. Of course, that leads to the cycle starting anew. That's the big struggle out West. These species have interrupted and altered the natural fire cycle.
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
15507 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:14 pm to
It's been smokey in Westlake the past few days, but clear today.
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