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Modern Les Pauls?

Posted on 8/17/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23412 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 12:46 pm
So I may be in the market for a Gibson Les Paul soon. What's the general opinion on modern Pauls? I've never owned a Gibson Les Paul for the record... only an Epi. I'd love to get a Les Paul Classic in either of these colors.



This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 12:47 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30865 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:05 pm to
I've been trying out some Epiphone Les Pauls lately that are fantastic. I don't think Epi is in the same company.
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17272 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:41 pm to
They're greatly improved.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5623 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:55 pm to
Go check out an Epiphone Les Paul Standard 59.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30865 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

They're greatly improved.

Yeah, Gibson seems to be doing the opposite of Fender, in relation to the divisions of the company.
They're letting the ponies run.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49476 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 4:02 pm to
I'm a fan/sucker of the late 80s and early 90s models.
Posted by rphtx
CO
Member since Apr 2018
1538 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 7:50 pm to
PRS is a much better quality buy at this time. Gibson hasn't really modernized the way Paul has...and he left Gibson to start PRS.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5623 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:37 pm to
The Epi 59 Les Paul Standard is pretty close to getting a Gibson Les Paul Standard for $1,000. This guitar even comes with Gibson Burstbucker pickups.
Posted by BogeyTX
Member since Apr 2018
979 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:44 pm to
Those colors are sick.
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1343 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 9:41 pm to
PRS is a better guitar for consistency, absolutely true.

Paul Reed Smith has never worked for Gibson. The closest relationship he ever had with them is his partnership with former 1950s-60s Gibson president Ted McCarty to create the PRS McCarty series in the 1990s. Do the math and you will quickly deduce Ted was long retired by the time he and Paul were collaborators.

Ted and Les Paul, 1950s


Ted and Paul, 1990s


Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1343 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 9:55 pm to
The golden rule with Les Pauls, whether vintage or modern, is to try before you buy if at all possible. EVERY ONE OF THEM is different due to variations in the wood mainly. Weight, kiln/drying periods, the specific cuts applied to the lumber at the mill and then the factory, are all factors and that's before you get into chambered vs chambered, maple top vs. all mahog, etc. etc. etc.

You can talk about old ones vs new ones ad nauseum but truth be told, there are jewels in the modern ranks and there are dogs from the golden era. My '76 Standard is from the constantly criticized Norlin era, but I assure you it runs with the best quite nicely. Case in point, I play it more than my restored '55 Junior :)

Eye candy break ...





For what it's worth, the best bang for the buck in the LP line is the LP Classic. The differences between a Classic and a Standard are few, but the former is usually several hundred bucks cheaper.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 7:07 pm to
That's tough to answer. There are so many models.

If you like baseball bat necks w smaller frets, go with a vintage reissue.

Some Les Pauls are pretty heavy.

But build quality has improved. If you buy online, just make sure it's from a reputable dealer w a good return policy.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17376 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:46 am to
New or vintage doesn’t matter, the headstock is still gonna break.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4678 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:18 am to
Had an Epi Les Paul Studio for years that I loved - even more than my Strat. Bit the bullet recently and traded it for a Gibson 60’s Les Paul. As FS stated, try them all. Found one heavy AF, but the coloring is incredible and it plays like it was built just for me.
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1343 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 4:44 pm to
Another thing I love about Norlin-era LPs ... multi-ply maple necks. Great for hard rock tones, even better for durability. I've never had one maple head Gibson uh-oh cross my bench.
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