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re: Dog just snapped at daughter
Posted on 8/6/23 at 12:19 pm to CrawfishElvis
Posted on 8/6/23 at 12:19 pm to CrawfishElvis
I don’t care if I had paid $10,000 for the dog. He would be gone. I will never understand anyone who would think differently. It’s your child vs an animal. Your job is to protect your children no matter what
Posted on 8/6/23 at 12:50 pm to CrawfishElvis
Dirt nap for the dog, zero aggression towards familiars is acceptable. Would have been done for after growling at the wife
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:05 pm to CrawfishElvis
Bullet to the head or your inclination to drop him off on the interstate doing 70 is probably the wrong tact to take.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:38 pm to lsushelly
There are too many on this board that value dogs over little children. Time to choose rather than gamble with the child's health.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:01 pm to animalcracker
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"My children are precious to me. My dad instinct kicks in when they are in danger and everything else is to blame but them. I will lose my shite, act agressive to an animal that should know better than my precious babies that do not need to learn how to respect other things." - The Outdoor Board
This is the pussification of America in a nutsack. It use to be when a kid told their parents a dog growled or snapped at them, the parents (knowing that the kid should be smarter than the dog) asked the kid what he or she did to make the dog act that way. The reason for this is to also teach the kid how to act around dogs, because it is most likely that they will encounter many dogs in their life, not knowing how they were trained.
Sorry to break it to you'll, but if you train a dog in an agressive manner to acknowledge you as the alpha male, that dog will not relate that to your child being the alpha male, resulting in him becoming more aggressive towards your children when you are not around.
I say this as having owned many German Shepherds and Rottweiler males, that were never neutered and were properly trained in a non aggressive manner. I have experience starting several dogs before finishing up training for the U.S. Customs, and they will not accept dogs that were trained with aggressiveness.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:42 pm to CrawfishElvis
There’s some good advice and also some bad advice in this thread. To start, the puppy is 7 months old. I grew up with labs. Some would just lunge and snap their mouth at you just to play but wouldn’t hurt a fly. As a puppy you need to discipline him, as you did. Yes he can learn what not to do. You also need to teach your kids how to act around him. Especially when he’s at that age.
I had a coworker who came in one day pissed because his dog had bitten his 2 yo son. Dog had never been aggressive. After asking a few questions he finally said that his son was eating something and would stick his arm out with food in it to the dog. 50/50 chance the kid would let the dog have the food. When the dog would try to eat it the kid would pull his arm back. The bite was an accident and completely avoidable.
I had a coworker who came in one day pissed because his dog had bitten his 2 yo son. Dog had never been aggressive. After asking a few questions he finally said that his son was eating something and would stick his arm out with food in it to the dog. 50/50 chance the kid would let the dog have the food. When the dog would try to eat it the kid would pull his arm back. The bite was an accident and completely avoidable.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:13 pm to ImaObserver
Exactly. I’ll go further. There are too people in this country that value a dog more than a human. Animals have their place. If they can’t act accordingly, they must be dealt with
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:19 pm to ImaObserver
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There are too many on this board that value dogs over little children. Time to choose rather than gamble with the child's health.
Dumbass sent his daughter back towards the dog and it’s water after it JUST snapped at her. Then it does the same thing and he hits it in the face and throws it out ? what the frick did you think was going to happen.
It’s not valuing dogs over children. It’s separating the dog and child then deciding what to do. If it’s training, then either learn quick because he obviously doesn’t know, or find someone who does know. This requires more separation of dog and kid until it happens. Or give the dog away.
But he handled it like an idiot. And some of you are way too eager to shoot off your newest pistol because of a dog. Weak asses.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:44 pm to CrawfishElvis
Wasn't there a poster here that his dog attacked his daughter? It's been years.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:47 pm to CrawfishElvis
Shoot dog in head… dispose
ETA: very simple
ETA: very simple
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 5:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
There's some bad posts in here, but your's is by far the worst. I'd say you didn't read the op, but it's obvious you did. Not only is the post dumb, but you delivered it like an arse. Congrats.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 5:22 pm to REB BEER
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Plus it’s a Lab not a pit bull
Only dog I have been bitten by was my neighbor's lab. He was aggressive as shite. He jumped on me when I was 8 and bit my face and broke my collarbone. One inch to the left and my ear was a goner. Also another fact, best dog I've ever owned was a rescue lab pit mix. Dog wouldn't hurt a flea. Was my best buddy too. Hated car rides and water though, lol. Man I miss him.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 5:47 pm to CrawfishElvis
I'd be in the hole for 800$
Posted on 8/6/23 at 5:48 pm to CrawfishElvis
I have no idea how you found this dog but every pure bred we have owned has been from a breeder whose contract includes they want the dog back if something does not work out including health or behavior. As you did not mention this I am guessing you might not have a sales agreement that stipluates this. I would start by reaching out to tghe breeder. It is clear that you should be on guard at this point with this dog and that is not what you had in mind when you got it. It might be a great dog for someone with more experience and /or no small childern. As was said having had a behaviour "failure" you should not have put your kid back in a position to see if it would happen again. This is not the dog for you.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:23 pm to agilitydawg
I’ll say this, I started training my lab from day one, sit, stay, heel…etc….also, took it all over the place and exposed it to as many environments as possible. I definitely think that training helps establish who the alpha is…the only time my lab got upset was at a cable man that came in the back yard to work in the cable one time….and it growled and showed it’s teeth…never snapped or anything…but I didn’t have kids or anything at the time either….but I will say that kids need to be taught as well as the dog…I don’t know that snapping at a kid warrants putting the dog down but I would definitely address the resource guarding….that can turn into a big problem if not dealt with….I would continue to work on it with your dog and daughter….labs are incredibly smart dogs and it should learn fairly quick.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:25 pm to CrawfishElvis
He needs training. He's a puppy
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:48 pm to CrawfishElvis
The dog would likely be missing a few teeth and I'd likely have a few busted knuckles.
Having said that, the failing isn't on the dog. A dog always needs to know where he stands. And that's at the very damned bottom of the totem pole.
My son is under a year and is a terrorist to the dog. Chases him around with a walker. Sneaks up on him crawling. Grabs him by the face. All shite he shouldn't do...but is too young to learn otherwise yet.
The dog tolerates it 100% and plays with him by hiding behind him when he isn't watching.
The other night we had a bunch of people over and the dog would randomly bark at the hellspawn that was running and screaming through the house.
Put his training collar on and after the 2nd zap he realized as annoying as they are, they are above him. He spent the next four hours curled up with them on the couch...which he was willing to take a repeated arse chewing for as he knows he isn't allowed on the furniture.
The next time your dog does it, don't hit him, grab him under his neck with both hands and pin him forcefully to the ground. Be overly aggressive, firm, and don't let him move until he lays there completely limp. Almost all of them get it. If he doesn't, get rid of him to a a guy who can be firm with him.
Having said that, we had farm dogs as a kid. I was taught early, if they have something they want, you need to gauge if they are willing to let you have it or not. If they aren't, as a kid, you leave them alone.
The neighbor has an oddly large lab puppy. Sweet dog. But in the first two weeks of being home with the baby, he would randomly come over and stare at the door. One morning were were leaving and I was carrying the baby, he jumped up. I carried him, by his collar across the pasture and back to his owner.
He won't get within 100 yards of the house now
Having said that, the failing isn't on the dog. A dog always needs to know where he stands. And that's at the very damned bottom of the totem pole.
My son is under a year and is a terrorist to the dog. Chases him around with a walker. Sneaks up on him crawling. Grabs him by the face. All shite he shouldn't do...but is too young to learn otherwise yet.
The dog tolerates it 100% and plays with him by hiding behind him when he isn't watching.
The other night we had a bunch of people over and the dog would randomly bark at the hellspawn that was running and screaming through the house.
Put his training collar on and after the 2nd zap he realized as annoying as they are, they are above him. He spent the next four hours curled up with them on the couch...which he was willing to take a repeated arse chewing for as he knows he isn't allowed on the furniture.
The next time your dog does it, don't hit him, grab him under his neck with both hands and pin him forcefully to the ground. Be overly aggressive, firm, and don't let him move until he lays there completely limp. Almost all of them get it. If he doesn't, get rid of him to a a guy who can be firm with him.
Having said that, we had farm dogs as a kid. I was taught early, if they have something they want, you need to gauge if they are willing to let you have it or not. If they aren't, as a kid, you leave them alone.
The neighbor has an oddly large lab puppy. Sweet dog. But in the first two weeks of being home with the baby, he would randomly come over and stare at the door. One morning were were leaving and I was carrying the baby, he jumped up. I carried him, by his collar across the pasture and back to his owner.
He won't get within 100 yards of the house now
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:52 pm to Seeing Grey
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Some shitty dog owners in this thread, sweet Jesus.
100% in agreement.
Anyone who would want to euthanize a young pup for defending it's resources is totally uneducated concerning dog behavior and should not have a dog. A dog is a dog and should be respected and loved for what it is.
Young kids should be taught how to respect a dog. I have raised/trained 100's of dog from Labs to German Shepherds to Belgian Malinois to Pits. My kids (3 girls and 1 boy) always fed the dogs and incorporated some obedience training into the feeding routine. There was one incident when my young son tried to take away a bone from a young German Shepherd and it nipped him on the hand. He came running up to me crying so I took my belt off and spanked his arse. He learned his lesson.
Euthanizing a dog for acting like a dog?! Either learn how to train both it and the kids or don't get one.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:57 pm to Tigers0891
Bunch of big ole baws on this thread calling me a pussy or a dumbass.
You pick a sonic and I’ll show you how much of a pussy I really am.
Yea I sent my daughter back in there with me standing 3 feet away. I knew her safety was not an issue at that point because I wouldn’t have let anything happen. I just needed to see with my eye what he was doing.
I’m not the kind of guy to immediately run and get my pistol to blow his brains out. I know puppies can be taught. Which is why I posted on this board after it happened while I was still pissed off and scratching my head.
The responses I’ve been getting have literally been all over the place. I’m calling a couple dog trainers tomorrow to get some professional advice and will make my decision then.
And dog and daughter are both still alive for anyone wondering.
You pick a sonic and I’ll show you how much of a pussy I really am.
Yea I sent my daughter back in there with me standing 3 feet away. I knew her safety was not an issue at that point because I wouldn’t have let anything happen. I just needed to see with my eye what he was doing.
I’m not the kind of guy to immediately run and get my pistol to blow his brains out. I know puppies can be taught. Which is why I posted on this board after it happened while I was still pissed off and scratching my head.
The responses I’ve been getting have literally been all over the place. I’m calling a couple dog trainers tomorrow to get some professional advice and will make my decision then.
And dog and daughter are both still alive for anyone wondering.
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