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Spence vs Crawford - Undisputed Welterweight Championship Thread

Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:34 am
Posted by GeauxHouston
Midland, Texas
Member since Nov 2013
5001 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:34 am



Errol Spence Jr. 28-0 (22 KO)
IBF, WBC, WBA Welterweight Champ
vs
Terrence Crawford 39-0 (30 KO)
WBO Welterweight Champ
Former Undisputed 140 lb champ
Former 135 lb champ

The prestigious Ring Magazine belt is up for grabs as well.

The Undercard (Actually decent)

Isaac Cruz 24-2 (17 KO)
vs.
Giovanni Cabrera 21-0 (7 KO)
-WBA lightweight title eliminator

Nonito Donaire 42-7 (28 KO)
vs.
Alexandro Santiago 27-3-5 (14 KO)
- For the vacant WBC bantamweight title

Live at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada Saturday July 29th on Showtime PPV.

Showtime All-Access Episodes
Episode 1
Episode 2

Final Press Conference
Link

Starting a fight thread for this one. Been waiting for this matchup for 5 years now… it’s finally happening tomorrow.
For all the belts and has all the makings of an instant classic. Two dudes that don’t talk too much and actually throw their hands. Should be fireworks.

Who you got?
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 7:58 am
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
7154 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:36 am to
I could see it going either way. Too close to call
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10517 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:53 am to
I might actually buy this one, last fight I bought was ggg/canelo 2.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68763 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:20 am to
Great matchup. We are in Captiva and seeing how devistating the hurricane damage is from last September not sure I’ll be able to watch. I will follow threads here.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5811 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:27 am to
This should be the best fight of the past decade.

I truly believe Spence at his best is the best pound for pound fighter in the world, his fundamentals and how he plays chess in the ring is second to none. But… it’s too much for me to bet against Crawford.

I’m just stoked for this one all around. I was going to be in Vegas this weekend but had to move it to next weekend and I’m still salty I can’t make this fight in person.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5349 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 9:49 am to
Went to the Spence Vs Ugas fight and told Mrs TTown (no pics) afterwards that I'm going to the Spence Vs Crawford fight once it's made even if I have to sell one of the kids to get tickets

I'll be there tomorrow night! Not so subtle brag. I might try to post some pics throughout the prelims if I can. Maybe upload the staredown pic, but phone is going in pocket once the main event starts.

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40642 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 9:51 am to
Holy smokes, didn't realize this was Saturday. This has somehow flown under the radar.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88669 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 9:55 am to
quote:

The prestigious Ring Magazine belt is up for grabs as well.
The what?
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5349 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:11 am to
Ring Magazine has its own belt. It's void of politics that you'll find in the other sanctioning bodies and most of the time is lineal. So this champion is often the man who beat the man all the way back to the inception of the division. Holder of this belt is usually regarded as the rightful champion by fans and a lot of media regardless of who holds the other 37 titles.

Sanctioning bodies and promoters can't make money off of it, so it isn't promoted like the other belts.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 10:14 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88669 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:14 am to
Oh well that’s refreshing. I figured it was just another one of the dumb belts in the mix.

That’s what I get for assuming.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
40546 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:15 am to
Boxing has put on a decent string of fights this year. Good to see
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40642 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:16 am to
quote:

I'll be there tomorrow night! Not so subtle brag. I might try to post some pics throughout the prelims if I can. Maybe upload the staredown pic, but phone is going in pocket once the main event starts.


That is bad arse. Fight should be epic. Always wanted to go to a big time boxing match.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19332 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:20 am to
I slightly favor Crawford, but it will probably be a real close fight.

With the power both these guys have, all it will take is one guy getting careless and a couple good combinations could decide the outcome.

Between the two, they have a combined 67 fights with 52 of them ending in KO. Someone's "0" has to go unless this fight ends in a draw.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:32 am to
I'll take Bud Crawford in the long run. Both guys agreeing to this is great. These days no one wants to fight through the politics to get it done.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19332 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:40 am to
quote:

These days no one wants to fight through the politics to get it done.



The reason great fights are so seldom made are not so much about politics but about trying to preserve the all-important "0" on the fighter's record.

For some reason the powers that be think a loss will damage the fighters earning ability or chances for big fights. Didn't work out that way when Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Ali, Holmes, Norton, Shavers, Foreman etc. were plying their trade in the square circle.

They fought who was in front of them and gave the fans what they deserved and ducked nobody.

None of their legacies are tarnished because of a few losses each.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:59 am to
quote:

For some reason the powers that be think a loss will damage the fighters earning ability or chances for big fights. Didn't work out that way when Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Ali, Holmes, Norton, Shavers, Foreman etc. were plying their trade in the square circle.


Too many belts which are politics. Some of these fighters are running scared for the reason you mentioned.

Floyd Mayweather was a running fool and our illustrious Heavyweight, is running from a Ukrainian champion he should be running to for legacy. Good grief if he isn't retiring every 5 minutes he wants to fight guys in other sports. I miss Manny.

There are a few, like Tank Davis, that are willing to risk it all, but few and far away.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19332 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:05 am to
quote:

There are a few, like Tank Davis, that are willing to risk it all, but few and far away.




That's why I respect Canelo Alvarez. He is not a big guy and started his career fighting at 139 lbs. and has fought as high as 175 where he got just a shade too out of his range with Bivol. But, he's dominated the middleweight and super middleweight division and he fights what his people put in front of him.

And yes, far too many organizations, belts and I'll throw in weight divisions that are separated by as little as 3-4 lbs.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 11:06 am
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8221 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:06 am to
Spence dominates
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
9194 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:06 am to
with this fight and ufc it's gonna be a great night of fighting
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
7383 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:07 am to
Reminds me of the old glory days when the best fought the best! Sugar Ray fights - Leonard-Hearns, Leonard-Benitez, Leonard-Duran(twice), and Leonard-Hagler. Hit Man Hearns fights - Hearns-Leonard, Hearns-Hagler(slugfest), and Hearns-Duran. Marvelous Marvin fights - Hagler-Leonard, Hagler-Hearns, Hagler-Mugabi. Hands of Stone fights - Duran-Leonard(twice), Duran-Hearns, and Duran-Palomino.

these guys were the best of the best, legendary fighters in their primes fighting each other all around the same time. That's how it should be, the best should always fight the best, but there's too much politics in today's boxing business. But I'm happy they made this fight happen! I'm a go with Spence in this fight, may the best man WIN!
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 12:54 pm
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