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re: "Gender affirming healthcare"

Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:20 pm to
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But you would have to be willing to except a lie to agree with this concept. Gender and sex are and have always been tied together. Trying to change the definition will never change the science.


The sex is science. Gender in the binary sense has absolutely not been always been tied to sex as there are cultures around the world that have 2,3 even up to 5 genders. Its not about believing a lie, its about having a change in perception. I'm not commenting on if we should accept surgical/transition as a course of treatment for trans folks especially for children, just the simply accepting them as the gender they identify.
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30105 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Gender in the binary sense has absolutely not been always been tied to sex as there are cultures around the world that have 2,3 even up to 5 genders.


Sone cultures believed in ritualistic child sacrifice too. Bad ideas are bad ideas.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48801 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:40 pm to
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cultures around the world that have 2,3 even up to 5 genders.


And until a few years ago the DSM listed trans as a mental illness. Using history isn’t a great argument. I don’t care at all what someone wants to identify as. And I have no opinion on whether the DSM was right or wrong. Just leave the kids alone.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:41 pm to
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The sex is science. Gender in the binary sense has absolutely not been always been tied to sex as there are cultures around the world that have 2,3 even up to 5 genders. Its not about believing a lie, its about having a change in perception. I'm not commenting


I live in the United States where gender and sex have always been tied together. " A change in perception" is just another way to say let's change the definition to fit our agenda.
Have you noticed in America they call a new pregnancy reveal " Gender reveal" and not " sex of baby reveal". Do you think a doctor sends a social question form down the ultrasound tube or do they look for a penis to decide gender. You can identify as what ever you choose but you do not have the right to demand I agree with it. There are 2 genders, male and female, anything else is mental illness. Approving the mental illness doesn't help the ill.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:41 pm to
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there are cultures around the world that have 2,3 even up to 5 genders.


Most of these examples are pretty unconvincing. They’re usually tied to ceremonial roles in non-Western religion and share far more in common with the idea of a tomboy or femme than a transgender as we define trans in our culture.
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