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re: United States of F#ck Yeah v. Glorified Ditch | Gold Cup | Semifinals | 6:30pm CT (FS1)

Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:57 pm to
You’re being a disingenuous fig if you can’t see that the MLS is getting much better at player development. And a good bit of those guys who are being developed in MLS academies are finding success in Europe at a young age. Everyone wants to go to Europe if they’re good enough, so yeah the quality of the league is going to be down when the best guys are leaving it. But to not acknowledge the strides they’ve made in developing talent is weird.

And I couldn’t give a frick less about MLS so I’m not some fanboy. I watch maybe 30 minutes each season.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:57 pm to
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I love that SCH just miraculously showed up after the loss and is already on his MLS shite.

SCH post in thread without shitting on MLS challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:57 pm to
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Only one of these guys was voted as an All Star this year.


Whether they are on this year or not doesn’t really matter.

If people are going to say, “This tournament doesn’t matter. Let’s send our C team,” and the C team is mostly MLS players, that’s inherently a referendum on MLS.

Outside of a few exceptions like Zimmerman, we send the MLS players to the tournaments we say aren’t important.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:58 pm to
He played in the fricking WC

Dude is just wasting space and too your point

We could have given a young player his spot
Posted by bless u boys
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:58 pm to
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Maybe 2 starters


Who's a possible starter besides Turner?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:59 pm to
That’s literally what y’all have been begging for. Y’all have spent the last decade praying for all of our best players to leave MLS and now can’t stop saying “damn, they ain’t got no good players in MLS.” What the frick do yall want?
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:59 pm to
Miles Robinson (he lowkey sucked these last two games though)
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:00 pm to
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Whether they are on this year or not doesn’t really matter.

If people are going to say, “This tournament doesn’t matter. Let’s send our C team,” and the C team is mostly MLS players, that’s inherently a referendum on MLS.

Outside of a few exceptions like Zimmerman, we send the MLS players to the tournaments we say aren’t important.


Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:00 pm to
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losing to Panama and struggling against CONCACAF teams is the same old USA.

We won the gold cup against A teams two years ago with our C team. This version of our C team was significantly weaker than that team and it showed
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Have we progressed at all over the last decade? I would say no and have almost certainly regressed as a nation in regards to regional dominance and overall success.
lol ok
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:00 pm to
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He played in the fricking WC


Roldan played in the World Cup?

May want to check that again chief.

quote:

We could have given a young player his spot



Like Paxten Aaronson who is trying to find a role with Eintracht? Stop being retarded.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125490 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:00 pm to
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You’re being a disingenuous fig if you can’t see that the MLS is getting much better at player development. And a good bit of those guys who are being developed in MLS academies are finding success in Europe at a young age. Everyone wants to go to Europe if they’re good enough, so yeah the quality of the league is going to be down when the best guys are leaving it. But to not acknowledge the strides they’ve made in developing talent is weird.


Bru

That’s my point

The talent that can’t make it to Europe isn’t that good at all

For the league to improve to be a top league. The domestic talent has to improve. Those second level guys who stay home suck. It has to get better but it isn’t.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:01 pm to
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If people are going to say, “This tournament doesn’t matter. Let’s send our C team,” and the C team is mostly MLS players, that’s inherently a referendum on MLS.


I’ve yet to see anyone argue that the MLS is even a decent league

Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12632 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:01 pm to
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That’s literally what y’all have been begging for. Y’all have spent the last decade praying for all of our best players to leave MLS and now can’t stop saying “damn, they ain’t got no good players in MLS.” What the frick do yall want?


For the league to be good enough that the players can stay in it without stunting their growth. It’s pretty straightforward.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:02 pm to
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The talent that can’t make it to Europe isn’t that good at all

For the league to improve to be a top league. The domestic talent has to improve. Those second level guys who stay home suck. It has to get better but it isn’t.


So you think the best young talent should stay in MLS?

SCH is Landon Donovan, y'all.
Posted by bless u boys
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:02 pm to
Ehh.. maybe pre-injury
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125490 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:04 pm to
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Roldan played in the World Cup? May want to check that again chief.


You right that was Morris

Which is also an issue

Neither of them should have been on the flight to Qatar
Posted by tigerfan24736
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:04 pm to
People care about the MLS?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71432 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:04 pm to
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For the league to be good enough that the players can stay in it without stunting their growth. It’s pretty straightforward.



Well the MLS domestic academies have been so good that they are producing talent that either skips MLS altogether or leaves MLS after 2-3 years.

The bulk of the MLS guys on this rosters are dudes in their mid to late 20's who have already reached their peak as a player.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71432 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:05 pm to
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You right that was Morris

Which is also an issue

Neither of them should have been on the flight to Qatar



So a bait and switch and then don't even answer my question.

C'mon baw, you're way better than this.

Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160105 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:05 pm to
It’s not your point though, because our second tier guys are also in Europe these days. Our talent pool has expanded tremendously and all of our fans have been begging them to go and they’ve gone. So now when we have to rely on MLS guys, they’re like our 4th or 5th choice at each position. MLS is doing the job by creating the talent pool and much like other leagues in the western hemisphere, they sell their best talents.

If Argentina played in tournaments with just players that play in Argentina, they’d get their arse whipped. But you’re not saying “the Argentine league needs to get better at developing talent” when all of their best players leave for Europe.
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