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The Mallaveto Project ; HINDSIGHT IS 20/20 (LONG)
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:36 pm
Lets go back a little less than a year ago.
We come off a national championship. Miles knows he needs to replace his DC.
He sits down and examines his team. He looks at his offense and sees Ryan P. with a monster oline, experienced wide receivers and tight end, charles scott returning and Crowton calling the plays. Miles looks at what Ryan P did at the end of the season and thinks he can keep him in line. He is looking at 45 points a game.
He looks at a defense that is returning a monster D Line, A senior Middle Linebacker, and a couple of pretty good safety's, so he thought. Score 45 points a game and he has a year where he can hire his boys at CO DC in order to keep some continuity. If he can score 45 a game, any inexperiance the Malleveto Project has can be masked by the Offense and Malleveto can learn on the run and I can still win 9 or 10 games. Sh*t I just won the National title!
Now comes reality. Spring arrives, Ryan P is a sh!t head and eventually gets booted. Now he is stuck with two inexperienced QB's and another on the way. You go from 45 points a game to who knows what kind of offense he can run with any of these guys.
The season starts and the QB situation is even worse than you thought. Your innovative offense is now reduced to Sh!t.
Malleveto winds up being a complete disaster. Poorly managed, bad scheme, terrible biltz packages and just plain confusion to go along with young LB's and CB's. Anyone who watched the games from the stadium could see that. And if you sat behind the bench U really saw it.
You struggle against Auburn away but pull out the close win. Play sloppy against MISS State. You get blown out, FLA, UGA. Against Alabama in an emotional game, he gets a good effort and close but still loses. Coming off that he nearly blows it to TROY. Then the wheels fall off against Ole Miss. You had to see this one coming. Who knows next week and the bowl game.
With all that being said his fatal flaw was relying on Ryan P and not going out and hiring the best DC he could find. Ryan P was an unreliable variable. In order to balance that instability he needed to hire a proven DC. If a quality, proven DC is coaching, this teams record may well be the same but the season does not look as bad. It looks like Florida's 9-4 or Oklahomas 8-4. But Anyone who compares those teams with this situatio is delusional. Everyone was calling Florida a national title contender coming into the season. 3 of there losses came in the middle of the season in a 4 game stretch with Auburn(L), LSU(L), Kentucky(W) & UGA(L). They lose to MIchigan in a crazy emotional last game of the LLoyd Carr era. And when Oklahoma went 8-4 they lost 3 of there first 5 then went 6 and 1 to finish the season. The season is not over but as of now there is no hype surrounding this team for next year.
MIles true test of a coach comes at the end of the season. This has the potential to unravel quick if he fails to make the right moves again.
If he makes the right moves he can tighten this up pretty quick. I have know idea what this guy will do. He is either Mack Brown or Larry Coker. One has had the ability to keep it together, the other just did not have what it takes. I can say I am pulling for the guy and his team but I have no idea which way he goes. But I do think it our right as fans who donate time, money and buy season tickets to question something when there is a problem.
Any way just putting it out there, like to see if anyone agrees with this or not.
We come off a national championship. Miles knows he needs to replace his DC.
He sits down and examines his team. He looks at his offense and sees Ryan P. with a monster oline, experienced wide receivers and tight end, charles scott returning and Crowton calling the plays. Miles looks at what Ryan P did at the end of the season and thinks he can keep him in line. He is looking at 45 points a game.
He looks at a defense that is returning a monster D Line, A senior Middle Linebacker, and a couple of pretty good safety's, so he thought. Score 45 points a game and he has a year where he can hire his boys at CO DC in order to keep some continuity. If he can score 45 a game, any inexperiance the Malleveto Project has can be masked by the Offense and Malleveto can learn on the run and I can still win 9 or 10 games. Sh*t I just won the National title!
Now comes reality. Spring arrives, Ryan P is a sh!t head and eventually gets booted. Now he is stuck with two inexperienced QB's and another on the way. You go from 45 points a game to who knows what kind of offense he can run with any of these guys.
The season starts and the QB situation is even worse than you thought. Your innovative offense is now reduced to Sh!t.
Malleveto winds up being a complete disaster. Poorly managed, bad scheme, terrible biltz packages and just plain confusion to go along with young LB's and CB's. Anyone who watched the games from the stadium could see that. And if you sat behind the bench U really saw it.
You struggle against Auburn away but pull out the close win. Play sloppy against MISS State. You get blown out, FLA, UGA. Against Alabama in an emotional game, he gets a good effort and close but still loses. Coming off that he nearly blows it to TROY. Then the wheels fall off against Ole Miss. You had to see this one coming. Who knows next week and the bowl game.
With all that being said his fatal flaw was relying on Ryan P and not going out and hiring the best DC he could find. Ryan P was an unreliable variable. In order to balance that instability he needed to hire a proven DC. If a quality, proven DC is coaching, this teams record may well be the same but the season does not look as bad. It looks like Florida's 9-4 or Oklahomas 8-4. But Anyone who compares those teams with this situatio is delusional. Everyone was calling Florida a national title contender coming into the season. 3 of there losses came in the middle of the season in a 4 game stretch with Auburn(L), LSU(L), Kentucky(W) & UGA(L). They lose to MIchigan in a crazy emotional last game of the LLoyd Carr era. And when Oklahoma went 8-4 they lost 3 of there first 5 then went 6 and 1 to finish the season. The season is not over but as of now there is no hype surrounding this team for next year.
MIles true test of a coach comes at the end of the season. This has the potential to unravel quick if he fails to make the right moves again.
If he makes the right moves he can tighten this up pretty quick. I have know idea what this guy will do. He is either Mack Brown or Larry Coker. One has had the ability to keep it together, the other just did not have what it takes. I can say I am pulling for the guy and his team but I have no idea which way he goes. But I do think it our right as fans who donate time, money and buy season tickets to question something when there is a problem.
Any way just putting it out there, like to see if anyone agrees with this or not.
This post was edited on 11/23/08 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:37 pm to Curtiselwood
I agree that this is a long essay.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:37 pm to Curtiselwood
yea I understood the reasoning behind the decision. Obviously its a massive frick up and both guys got in way over their heads. Now will Les fix the situation ? Lets hope
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:38 pm to BilJ
i get the reasoning behind wanting to keep the system and shite in place but really getting a real dc would have been a much safer choice
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:39 pm to heartbreakTiger
quote:
i get the reasoning behind wanting to keep the system
i dont. it wasnt that effective last year...
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:42 pm to Curtiselwood
you do know they did go after DC's and the co option wasn't the first choice scenario.
and do you fricking people consider 14-0 a blow out?
i hope not.
guess what? we lost to georgia by 14. if that's a blow out then might as well say we were blown ou tlast night as well.
and do you fricking people consider 14-0 a blow out?
i hope not.
guess what? we lost to georgia by 14. if that's a blow out then might as well say we were blown ou tlast night as well.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:44 pm to xLxSxUxFxAxNx
i find it hard to believe that we couldn't get a real dc though. honestly we are coming off a nc, loaded with talent on d and we have money. if you can't bring in a real dc you aren't trying.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:44 pm to Curtiselwood
quote:Not to mention us not signing a QB in the 2005 class.
With all that being said his fatal flaw was relying on Ryan P.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:45 pm to Curtiselwood
great post. good analysis. Now lets stop reflecting and look ahead. Good coaches react quickly, and stop looking in th rearview mirror. Many of these changes could have been made by now.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:45 pm to Elleshoe
He tried to get a DC but couldn't get the top couple on his list. Down the list he had the Mallaveto Project and ended up with that. He did not turn retarded over the break, like many on here tend to think. Now it is a matter of him admitting his mistake (he knows its a mistake) publicly and replacing the defensive coordinators.
I'm concerned that he might believe that he can smooth things out, if just given more time. Lets hope he doesn't go this route and gets a new Def. cord.
I'm concerned that he might believe that he can smooth things out, if just given more time. Lets hope he doesn't go this route and gets a new Def. cord.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:46 pm to heartbreakTiger
When u get 50 dropped on you in regulation and score some oh by the way points thats blown out to me. I call last night blown out. We were never in that game. Outclassed and outcoached the entire night.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 4:46 pm to heartbreakTiger
it was a short list. and not everything works out like we want it to.
i always like the theory that there was a possiblity that their ideal guy (no clue who) needed to wait a year so he put this co sytem in place as a temporary fix.
i always like the theory that there was a possiblity that their ideal guy (no clue who) needed to wait a year so he put this co sytem in place as a temporary fix.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 5:00 pm to xLxSxUxFxAxNx
Very good post...Miles went with Mallaveto because it was the status quo. He could keep the continuity with the staff and everything would basically stay the same on defense, which was just coming off a national title and another top 5 total defense ranking.
It was an acceptable move at the time. It made sense.
It just didn't work out, for whatever reason.
It was an acceptable move at the time. It made sense.
It just didn't work out, for whatever reason.
This post was edited on 11/23/08 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 11/23/08 at 5:05 pm to Chicken
I didn't like the DC move at the time but I agree It made sense after the season if everything remained the same. If RP is around still, the defenseive woes MAY not have hurt as much. But getting rid of him was the right move. I also felt like while the Iron was hot we should have paid for the best DC we could find but like I said Hindsight is 20/20.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 5:08 pm to Chicken
this is why you need a best of section.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 5:12 pm to Chicken
quote:
Not to mention us not signing a QB in the 2005 class
We did
I think this season is a culmination of a lot of things....losing Pelini and not hiring a strong coordinator with a competent track record, a group of seniors who were the heart and sould of last year's team, losing RP, a team coming off a national championship season and that perhaps got complacent.
The season is almost over and the important part is how Miles reacts to it.
And I think fans would be a little less frustrated if they didn't hear Miles sugarcoat the problems we know are there.
We may have some hypercritical fans like SFP and some other fans who just bitch to bitch, but the decent fans can recognize when something isn't working. They may not have knowledge of what happens behind the scenes at practice and in meetings, but most of us know that the defense has been uncoordinated for most of the year.
This post was edited on 11/23/08 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 11/23/08 at 5:14 pm to Curtiselwood
The Malleveto Project
I first thought this was going to be a story about an atomic bomb project, where many months and hopes were spent on deveolping an atomic bomb. The bomb is deployed and attempted detonation but nothing happens. The bomb never goes off and everyone is left wondering what went wrong and how it can be fixed.
Your post was good though too.
I first thought this was going to be a story about an atomic bomb project, where many months and hopes were spent on deveolping an atomic bomb. The bomb is deployed and attempted detonation but nothing happens. The bomb never goes off and everyone is left wondering what went wrong and how it can be fixed.
Your post was good though too.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 5:15 pm to Curtiselwood
quote:
Miles looks at what Ryan P did at the end of the season and thinks he can keep him in line. He is looking at 45 points a game.
How in heck could he get that perception? RP's only significant playing time vs an SEC team was the SECC game. Tennessee had given up over forty TDs last season yet RP could only lead us to one. That is a big leap of faith. RP had been here a couple of years yet he was still on a short leash as to plays he was allowed to run.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 5:16 pm to Curtiselwood
I have been trying to think of an example other than OU where co dependent coordinators (yes I know its co-coodinators) have been really effective, but I am drawing a blank.
I do know that the co-DC thing was a disaster at UT, hence Muschanp being hired this year. UT had one of the worst pass defenses in the country and that was with 3 top draft picks in the secodary.
I do know that the co-DC thing was a disaster at UT, hence Muschanp being hired this year. UT had one of the worst pass defenses in the country and that was with 3 top draft picks in the secodary.
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