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I have a customer that is filing chapter 11 bankruptcy. They owe my company…

Posted on 6/26/23 at 3:01 pm
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2866 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 3:01 pm
…a bit of money from 2 years ago. We are listed on the Certificate of Service. What % of debt owed is typically expected to be recovered in a chapter 11? I’m guessing it varies wildly from case to case?
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
4089 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 3:15 pm to
if you're unsecured i'd expect 0
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1601 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 3:20 pm to
What lsujro said

Expect 0% and be happy if you get 1%
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29308 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 4:26 pm to
Good luck. I'd write it off now, and anything you more than $0 is lagniappe.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13101 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 6:48 pm to
It sucks that the government can mandate that businesses and people can get stiffed, but tax debt can't be bankrupted on. It seems very twisted.

It seems tyrannical.
Posted by CHGAR
Haile, LA
Member since Aug 2022
1253 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:29 am to
quote:

but tax debt can't be bankrupted on


Certain tax debt can be discharged, I've seen it happen.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8249 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 9:44 am to
How much they owe you?
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51335 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 10:58 am to
quote:

if you're unsecured i'd expect 0


That's not true at all. This is ch. 11, not 7. Typically we like to pay vendors, especially key ones, as we will need them and the company's reputation coming out of bankruptcy.

A bit odd its TWO years overdue though.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24813 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 11:34 am to
0
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23418 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 1:42 pm to
How much we talking about?


Bankruptcy laws suck in this country.
Posted by FriscoTiger1973
Frisco, Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1414 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:01 pm to
.15 cents on the dollar if you’re lucky, most likely zero.
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
2173 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:06 pm to
Are you secured? UCC filing w the lien? If not you’re probably fricked.
If so, secured creditors get first priority. If there’s not enough assets to pay all secured, then typically distributed pro rata.
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2866 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 7:12 pm to
They have been in a forbearance with their bank for those 2 years. They offered to settle what they owed us at about 20%. I decided to gamble and decline that offer, hoping they might turn things around and pay us at least most of what they owe ($48k).
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1601 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:50 am to
quote:

auwaterfowler

quote:

They offered to settle what they owed us at about 20%. I decided to gamble and decline that offer, hoping they might turn things around and pay us at least most of what they owe ($48k).


Hindsight is always 20/20 but you should have jumped all over that settlement offer.

Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51335 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:54 am to
quote:

They have been in a forbearance with their bank for those 2 years.


yea, thats not great.

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