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re: New nbc national poll: Biden 49 Trump 45. DeSantis 47 Biden 47
Posted on 6/25/23 at 12:56 pm to Northwestern tiger
Posted on 6/25/23 at 12:56 pm to Northwestern tiger
Trump — 51% (+5 from April)
DeSantis — 22% (-9)
Pence — 6% (+1)
Christie — 5% (+5)
Haley — 4% (-1)
Scott — 3% (=)
Ramaswamy — 3% (+1)
Hutchinson — 2% (-1)
@NBCNews
DeSantis — 22% (-9)
Pence — 6% (+1)
Christie — 5% (+5)
Haley — 4% (-1)
Scott — 3% (=)
Ramaswamy — 3% (+1)
Hutchinson — 2% (-1)
@NBCNews
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:00 pm to Tiger985
You do realize in polling terms these results are identical?
Polls like this actually undercut the central case of the Desantis campaign, that he is more electable than Trump.
He is not.
yes, the margin of possible polling error is more than the difference.
Polls like this actually undercut the central case of the Desantis campaign, that he is more electable than Trump.
He is not.
yes, the margin of possible polling error is more than the difference.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:00 pm to Tigers2010a
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No one in their right mind would vote for Biden after the last 3 years.
It won't be Biden.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:00 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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People think nearly 160mil voted in the 2020 election AND, Bidum received more votes than black jesus.
Actually, very few people truly believe that. Most (including some here) are just happy with the results so they deny cheating happened.
When you think your opponent is LITERALLY worse than Hitler, any means justify the ends.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:01 pm to Jjdoc
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Trump — 51% (+5 from April)
DeSantis — 22% (-9)
Pence — 6% (+1)
Everybody knows the indictments have made Trump surge with Republicans. The story is whether or not Trump's chances in the general are shitty relative to DeSantis's.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:02 pm to Jjdoc
Thank you for proving our point. We appreciate it.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:03 pm to Tigers2010a
[quote]No one in their right mind would vote for Biden after the last 3 years. [/quote
The problem is that we clearly have a lot of folks in this country that are not in their right mind.
The problem is that we clearly have a lot of folks in this country that are not in their right mind.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:04 pm to Northwestern tiger
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lose bigly to Brandon In the general.
People cannot be this stupid again to vote Biden.
Well, it is the United States so anything now is possible.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:05 pm to Tigers2010a
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No one in their right mind would vote for Biden after the last 3 years. Poll is disinformation.
You need to get out of your bubble. I know “moderates” and libs that would crawl through broken glass to vote for any candidate running against Trump. They really don’t care at all who the D candidate is.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:05 pm to SirWinston
Daddyjr is my pick. Daddy already lost to Joe.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:14 pm to David_DJS
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Everybody knows the indictments have made Trump surge with Republicans.
Trump's numbers were climbing before then. DeSantis was dropping.
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The story is whether or not
There is no story.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:15 pm to Jjdoc
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Trump's numbers were climbing before then.
From the BS indictments in NY. Clearly, Dems have been good to Trump in 2023.
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There is no story.
You don't believe polls? Why do you post them incessantly?
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:20 pm to tiger789
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2 strikes
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tiger789
Do you seriously believe Trump can and will win the general election? 100% serious question.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:20 pm to CelticDog
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You do realize in polling terms these results are identical?
Polls like this actually undercut the central case of the Desantis campaign, that he is more electable than Trump.
He is not.
yes, the margin of possible polling error is more than the difference.
This poll shows an 8 point difference between Trump and DeSantis in the Swing States. That is how the election will be determined. Trump can't win in AZ and GA especially. He is still insulting Kemp and McCain out of spite and he has to have those voters. Doesn't have to love them he just can't piss on them but Trump can't help himself.
Trump also has no ground game and nothing but words when it comes to creating one and ballot harvesting. DeSantis has a massive operation already running with paid and trained door knockers hitting the pavement NOW.
Trump is going to lose if he is the nominee. The crazy thing is how many Trump folks don't seem to actually care.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:21 pm to Northwestern tiger
"NBC" is a non starter
they are the same people occupying the occupied US government
they are the same people occupying the occupied US government
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:22 pm to frogtown
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AZ, GA, WI,
Trump lost these 3 states by fractions of one percent, not 10 points.
Even if you deny the fraud.
Many in those states voted for Biden the moderate, Biden the competent, Biden the adult, Biden the healer.
Were they delivered moderation, competence or unity?
It's ridiculous to say Trump cannot win a fair election in those states in 2024.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:23 pm to David_DJS
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Trump's numbers were climbing before then.
From the BS indictments in NY.
His numbers were climbing PRIOR TO.
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You don't believe polls?
I stated there is no story. My belief in polls does not sway that one way or the other. Trump is going to win the nomination and that's what we are dealing with.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:23 pm to Kreg Jennings
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Do you seriously believe Trump can and will win the general election?
YEP!
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:24 pm to aggressor
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Trump is going to lose if he is the nominee. The crazy thing is how many Trump folks don't seem to actually care.
They don't care.
They would rather lose the general than have Ron win the GOP nomination.
Deep down, Trumpists know that he can't win.
He's gotten his arse kicked with independents and in swing states the last 3 election cycles and the only thing that's changed is more indictments.
The people who decide are done with Trump.
A couple months ago, there was a poll that said among voters who strongly dislike Trump and strongly dislike Biden, Biden wins those voters 54-15. And that's that.
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:25 pm to Jjdoc
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Trump is going to win the nomination and that's what we are dealing with.
Nobody is debating the primary as it stands. We're discussing the sanity of nominating a guy that's destined to lose, as indicated by the polls.
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