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re: How much can we realistically pitch Skenes in Omaha?
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:02 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:02 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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I think Hurd game 1 against usm skenes game 2
Y’all need to stop this. Anyone can beat you on any day in Omaha. If Jay pitched Skenes against Tulane, he’ll do it against anyone, especially USM
You absolutely CAN NOT fall into the losers bracket after one game. Use Skenes to pummel whatever poor SOBs come out of Hattiesburg and worry about game 2 before game 2. Wake will almost certainly burn Lowder in game 1 too. We won’t be outgunned with Floyd on the hill in game 2
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:09 pm to MrWalkingMan
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You absolutely CAN NOT fall into the losers bracket after one game.
why not? why do people keep saying this? if we lose in the marbles with Floyd we are in the EXACT SAME SPOT
roll the dice with Hurd/Floyd in game 1 so that we'll have Skenes for marbles game vs the unanimous #1 ranked WF.
if we lose that gamble in game 1, then we have Skenes in an elimination game anyway to get us back to the loser of the marbles game
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:11 pm to The Hurricane
2 games. This Saturday and next Saturday to start off the championship series.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:12 pm to geauxtigers33
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he’s be better than anybody else out of the pen probably
probably
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:12 pm to Honkus
CPM was crucified on this board for pitching Poche over Lange in game one of the CWS in 2015.
And that team had a number 2 guy you actually trusted week in and week out.
And that team had a number 2 guy you actually trusted week in and week out.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:13 pm to Coach112214
Skenes has been a moster.
This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:20 pm to geauxtigers33
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PM was crucified on this board for pitching Poche over Lange in game one of the CWS in 2015.
back in 2015 you could get away with 2 pitchers if you stayed in the winners bracket. the tourney is 2 days shorter these days
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:47 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
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I think Hurd game 1 against usm skenes game 2
You pitch Skenes game 1 so you can use him sooner. There’s a day in between each game played.
LSU plays Saturday, some game 2 would be Monday. That means you’re further along in the tournament before Skenes is available again.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:00 pm to extremelsu
Skenes is at 188
Ben had 202 I believe. So 14 to tie. 15 to surpass.
If he gets 2 starts, that record’s cooked.
Ben had 202 I believe. So 14 to tie. 15 to surpass.
If he gets 2 starts, that record’s cooked.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:04 pm to Honkus
quote:Game 1 sets the mindset for the team.quote:
You absolutely CAN NOT fall into the losers bracket after one game.
why not? why do people keep saying this? if we lose in the marbles with Floyd we are in the EXACT SAME SPOT
Win game 1 with Skenes, everyone feels good and confident, and you come out expecting to win again.
Lose game 1 with anyone, you are panicked and desperate not to go 2 and BBQ. People will press, not likely to settle in and play relaxed.
Skenes game 1 is the team's security blanket. It's worked all year, and Johnson made a point to go with that in the regional.
Do you want to face Tanner Hall or Chase Dollander in game 1, with not your best guy?
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:08 pm to tigerclaw10
There's 2 options: Saturday-Saturday or Saturday-Thursday-Monday.
I'm not sure if they would do the 4 days/3 days rest option or not. Ideally we start 4-0 and don't even have to make the desperate decision and then just have to win 1 out of 2 without him for the title.
I'm not sure if they would do the 4 days/3 days rest option or not. Ideally we start 4-0 and don't even have to make the desperate decision and then just have to win 1 out of 2 without him for the title.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:13 pm to Scoob
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Do you want to face Tanner Hall or Chase Dollander in game 1, with not your best guy?
WF has 3 i'd rather not face w/o our best
besides, we've already seen both of these guys (TH last yr)
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:13 pm to ccox11
I think Johnson has shown his pitching strategy of maximizing Skenes innings pitched.
He will pitch as early as possible
He will pitch as early as possible
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:13 pm to ccox11
People saying don't start Skenes in game 1 are crazy. Tennessee/USM are a whole lot closer to Wake Forest than Tulane was to Oregon State. 4 seeds in regionals are generally not good. Everybody in Omaha is relatively close. Also, a regional is over 4 days. Omaha is over 11 days. You pitch your ace as early as possible so you can pitch him as much as possible or with as much rest as possible over 11 days.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:17 pm to slackster
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Jay said today on Mik’d Up that “Skenes isn’t done. We have him for two or three more starts.”
Was anyone actually suggesting he was done?
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:22 pm to ccox11
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Tennessee/USM are a whole lot closer to Wake Forest
disagree. Wake, LSU, Florida are tier 1
Texas/Stanford, UVA, Tennessee, TCU are the next tier.
Then USM
Then Oral
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Omaha is over 11 days. You pitch your ace as early as possible so you can pitch him as much as possible or with as much rest as possible over 11 days.
It's only 11 days now (not 13).
i've already laid out why we wont get 3 starts of the Skenes. We are probably not bringing him back on 3 days rest to start for the if-necessary game 3 championship Monday.. maybe in relief at best
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:29 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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but if we’re 6 outs away from a title in a one run game, he’s getting the ball no matter how much he’s pitched
I’d bet good money this doesn’t happen.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:31 pm to Coach112214
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He will not come in relief for any reason in Omaha. Jay has said that time and time again.
I have not heard this. I was prepared for UK to call Skenes in during the 9th last night!
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:34 pm to rpg37
I could definitely see a relief appearance or a short start if it’s for a championship.I guess it would depend on the pitch count was high the game before. 90 or so pitches the game before and I’m letting him run out 30-40 pitches to get #7.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:50 pm to tigerclaw10
Game 1 95 pitches (we will be ahead 8-1, so pull him)
Game 3 112 pitches (leave him out there as long as it's necessary)
Game 3 of championship 85 pitches (give us 5 or 6 innings)
Game 3 112 pitches (leave him out there as long as it's necessary)
Game 3 of championship 85 pitches (give us 5 or 6 innings)
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