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Smoke Causes Northeast U.S. Solar Power Generation To Plunge By 50%
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:21 am
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Smoke from Canada’s wildfires is preventing solar panels from catching sunlight, and solar power generation in the northeast United States is tumbling by more than 50% as a result.
ISO New England, the operator of the grid, said on Thursday that “In recent days, smoke from wildfires in Canada has traveled to New England, significantly lowering production from solar resources in the region compared to what ISO New England would expect absent the smoke.”
Solar power generation in New England was 56% below last week during times of peak demand this week, according to the operator quoted by Bloomberg.
Solar power accounts for around 3% of electricity generation in New England, with natural gas and nuclear the biggest sources with 52% and 26% share, respectively.
The smoke from the Canadian wildfires has also lowered actual temperatures in New England compared to what weather models are forecasting. This leads to lower demand on the regional grid, as there is less need for things like air conditioning, ISO New England said.
“Because these smoky conditions are unprecedented in the region, there is little, if any, historical information to rely on, creating further complications in generating accurate forecasts,” the grid operator added.
The plunge in solar power generation combined with the lower temperatures as a result of the smoke makes forecasting demand for the grid challenging, according to ISO New England.
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New York ISO said that smoke from Canada’s wildfires, which is blocking sunlight, resulted in a combined reduction in peak solar energy production of 1,466 MW for June 6-7, for a two-day total peak production of 4,405 MW.
In the area serviced by PJM Interconnection, from North Carolina to Illinois, solar power generation this week has been 25% below last week’s average solar output levels.
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:24 am to ragincajun03
Is this supposed to be a gotcha on solar power?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:27 am to ragincajun03
If you know anyone who advocates for sola solar, feel free to call them an idiot. For everyone else who advocates for mixed energy generation, this is why solar is just one of many pieces of the puzzle.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:28 am to ragincajun03
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solar power generation in the northeast United States is tumbling by more than 50% as a result.
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Solar power accounts for around 3% of electricity
Oh no. Whatever will they do?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:34 am to ragincajun03
It’s only that bad in very specific worst case areas. The vast majority of the systems up there are dealing with a much lower production impact. But it is an issue and we see minor fluctuations all over the US when there’s a lot of particulate the air even from across the country or world.
ETA they’re trying to make this sound more complicated than it is. We have a shite ton of data from CA wildfires. This isn’t that difficult.
ETA they’re trying to make this sound more complicated than it is. We have a shite ton of data from CA wildfires. This isn’t that difficult.
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 11:39 am
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:35 am to ragincajun03
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“Because these smoky conditions are unprecedented in the region
There that word is again.
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:43 am to ragincajun03
2:00 in the afternoon was like being in deep twilight except it was orange.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:47 am to ragincajun03
The economy of the future folks! Let's get ahead of the world and invest more!
Eta: and don't forget to plug in your car(s)
Eta: and don't forget to plug in your car(s)
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 11:48 am
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:48 am to thejuiceisloose
Isn't solar just about the most vulnerable power source to both natural disasters and sabotage ?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:50 am to USMCguy121
I'd worry more about the infrastructure than the power source when considering those two vulnerabilities
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:51 am to fightin tigers
Touche
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:55 am to USMCguy121
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Isn't solar just about the most vulnerable power source to both natural disasters and sabotage ?
I do not know about those topics, but in this case I think the response should be "Well sure is another reason to try and prevent/contain forest fires" and not "we should never use solar energy"
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:06 pm to USMCguy121
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Isn't solar just about the most vulnerable power source to both natural disasters and sabotage ?
Nuclear will always be a big sabotage target. Natural disasters really depend on what it is. Solar can be very vulnerable or incredibly resilient and offer off-grid capability. It just depends on the event.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:11 pm to ragincajun03
Ban smoke and clouds now to save the planet 
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:49 pm to billjamin
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Nuclear will always be a big sabotage target.
I guess saboteurs have just been asleep for decades
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:49 pm to ragincajun03
One day most new buildings, residential and commercial, will have solar capture, and some level of micro energy independence.
As another poster said, just a piece of the puzzle.
As another poster said, just a piece of the puzzle.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:56 pm to ragincajun03
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:57 pm to thejuiceisloose
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I do not know about those topics, but in this case I think the response should be "Well sure is another reason to try and prevent/contain forest fires"
Study up on that one and the red tape and backwards thinking that got us to this point.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:59 pm to rhar61
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I guess saboteurs have just been asleep for decades
Yeah, absolutely no sabotage has ever been carried out on nuclear equipment.
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:59 pm to TejasHorn
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One day most new buildings, residential and commercial, will have solar capture, and some level of micro energy independence.
Meanwhile, until that day let us keep covering untold acres of land with the blight that is a solar farm whilst ignoring all the empty rooftops and parking lots we already have.
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