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Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:02 pm
Posted by TigersLSU
St Augustine, FL
Member since Nov 2007
550 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:02 pm
Any of y’all retire with a TSP? If so, what did you do with it if you entered the civilian (non-government) work?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89775 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:14 pm to
How old are you?

How much is it?

Do you need the money?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
72748 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:20 pm to
Assuming you are military, look up a Facebook group called “from military to millionaire”. My buddy David runs it and there is plenty of discussion and a much better place to ask. I never contributed to tsp but if you do, max it out and max out other things like Roth etc. He does all that and house hacks in real estate. Great group with tons of ppl, information, discussion and guidance.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18889 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:34 pm to
You’ll likely find that it’s best to leave the money in TSP, where fees are less than private funds. You can change your investments, set regular withdrawals, etc. within TSP. Fedweek.com has some good articles on the subject.
Posted by Artificial Intel
Member since Jan 2023
210 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:53 am to
Not sure why the others didn’t just answer your question. I and others I know just let it sit in the TSP account. Some got govt jobs so they were able to continue contributing.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 8:54 pm
Posted by CajunTiger78
Member since Aug 2017
2531 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 7:06 am to
Moved it over to a financial advisor
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4603 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:23 am to
There’s literally only 5 options to invest in TSP. And only 2 options in fixed income which are heavily weighted treasuries.

For someone who’s retired especially , there’s a lot of opportunity being left in the table by staying in that TSP. Not to mention the “G” fund which is “guaranteed” can be borrowed from by the federal government in times like right now.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2164 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:24 am to
TSP is no longer the market leader for low fees.
Rollover to an IRA with a low cost provider for lower fees, better/more investment choices, more flexibility for reallocation/trades, Better customer service and user interface.

If you have any tax exempt contribution stuck in traditional rollover to Roth IRA so it can start growing tax free.

I havent made the move yet because Im waiting for new TSP servicer to get their act together. At this point not sure if they ever will so I just need to make the move ASAP.
Common advice is keep $200 in TSP G fund so your account stays open without risk of dropping below minimum. That keeps the option open to rollover to TSP later.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 8:55 am
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2164 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:26 am to
quote:

only 5 options to invest in TSP. 
Dont forget the new laughably high cost TSP mutual fund window.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 8:30 am
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15196 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:33 pm to
I recently inherited some TSP money. I have been trying to get the money out of TSP for 5 months. As of today I am no closer to getting the money than the day I sent in the death certificate in January.

They did send me a 1099 form for the deceased so I could file a tax return. It only took 3.5 months of calling every week. Started calling on Feb 1 and I got the 1099 on May 18th.

TSP has to be the worst organization I have ever dealt with.

Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2164 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:48 pm to
GAO is investigating (slowly). They have posted an additional number to call for issues. May want to contact your congressman too.

Hope youre not facing RMDs and/or needing to start taking 10 yr drawdown to manage taxes.

Sorry for your loss, you shouldnt have to fight to get inheritance
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
2712 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 12:21 am to
I retired in 2016. I left what I had in my TSP Roth right where it is.

It isn't the best.....but it ain't bad either. I am currently in 50% S, 50% C; letting it ride. I don't need it.

There are facebook groups like TSP Seasonal strategies, etc. that have compiled some great trends, but unless something catastrophic happens, mine will simply sit and grow. If something huge were brewing, I'd just slide it over to G and wait it out.

Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15196 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Hope youre not facing RMDs and/or needing to start taking 10 yr drawdown to manage taxes.


I wish I could manage the taxes. They are forcing me and brother out of TSP (No rollover allowed). The tax bill will be huge all in 2023.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2164 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:04 am to
Why not? Were you designated beneficiaries? If not is that what made the difference? I need to make sure this doesnt happen to me as a beneficiary or to my heirs with my TSP. The new provider dumped many if not all beneficiary designations so I need to update mine ASAP. I'd like to learn more on why they wont let you rollover to an IRA though even if you cant keep a beneficiary account.
I just read this from TSP Tax Rules for TSP Distributions On page 13 it states that direct rollover to inherited IRA is permitted. But if they cut you an check instead it will be considered a full distribution and taxed. If you are getting cut a check and they wont do a rollover because of their 90 day auto distribution policy and youve been trying to contact them for months, I would get a good estate or tax attorney involved and wouldn't cash that check without legal advice.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 10:07 am
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15196 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:30 am to
It's complicated. My BIL and Sister were both federal employees. High earners engineers in the tech field. BIL passed in 2015. My sister was the spouse beneficiary on his TSP account. She kept the BIL money in TSP since she was under 59.5 and she also had her own TSP account. It worked for her.

When my sister passed in 2023. Myself and my brother were 50% beneficiaries on her account and her husbands beneficiary acct. TSP allowed us the rollover my sisters account as a non spouse beneficiary. They do not allow a rollover on a beneficiary account (BIL account).

So if you pass and leave your TSP to your spouse. Your surviving spouse keeps the money in TSP. The surviving spouse latter dies with money in TSP. The beneficiaries will be forced out with no rollover option.

From TSP website
Note: If a beneficiary participant dies, the new beneficiary(ies) cannot continue to maintain the account in the TSP. Also, the death benefit payment cannot be rolled over into any type of IRA or plan.

TSP
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 10:45 am
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2164 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:55 am to
Thanks for that detailed explanation and info. More reason I need to bail from TSP ASAP. Otherwise, I can see my kids getting stuck down the line.
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