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re: OT Historians - Where Was Japan Getting Their Oil from During WWII?

Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:47 pm to
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:47 pm to
Borneo
Posted by Breauxsif
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:49 pm to
Darth, your rebuttal should be good against Russian, this is in your wheelhouse
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:50 pm to
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Pretty much all of the Allies oil and refined products came from the US.

Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:54 pm to
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How so? I'm referring to the USSR granting Japan mining rights on Sakhalin Island all during the war. It wasn't a great deal of oil but it still was oil that Japan very much needed.


You fricking idiot. Russia didn’t “grant” Japan shite during the war. Japan had owned the southern half of Sakhalin since they invaded it during the Russo-Japanese war four decades before WWII. The Treaty of Portsmouth, which ended the Russo-Japanese War recognized Japan’s sovereignty over the southern half of the island.
Posted by UFFan
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:56 pm to
They got their oil from Louisiana. Duh.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:01 pm to
So you agree that the USSR provided crude oil to Japan during WWII, which is what I said? Okay, thanks for agreeing with me.

And you also can't find a link where I predicted last year that the Ukraine/Russia war would only last two weeks?

Searching all of my posts last year which mention "Ukraine" or "war" shouldn't take you much time since I posted exactly ZERO times in threads last year which contain those words either on the Political Board or this board. I didn't look on the Soccer Board, Home/Garden Board or the Food and Drink Board...
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:02 pm to
Pine cones
Posted by TheGasMan
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:06 pm to
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LSURussian

Put down the vodka brother. I’ll post a link of you supporting Russia in this war when you post a legit link of Russia supplying legit bunker fuel to the IJN.

Sorry your Reddit link that has a tertiary link to the Russian State’s O&G industry doesn’t count.
Posted by CornbreadFed
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:12 pm to
Indonesia, Manchuria
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:13 pm to
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You fricking idiot.
Why so emotional, Darth? Did you spill paint or glue on one of children's plastic model airplanes you're working on? Calm down before you stroke out. This ain't that big of a deal.
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Russia didn’t “grant” Japan shite during the war.
Okay, so why did the author of the article I linked to use the phrase "Japan also had a concession from the USSR to mine on Sakhalin Island..."?

Maybe you know for a fact that Japan extracted crude ONLY from the southern section that it controlled and not from the northern Russian part.

But if that's the case, why would Japan need a "concession" from the USSR to mine crude from territory which Japan owned?

The "concession" sure sounds like the USSR gave Japan permission to extract crude from its territory.

But I could be wrong about that. Or, maybe you're wrong about that...
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:13 pm to
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Put down the vodka brother. I’ll post a link of you supporting Russia in this war when you post a legit link of Russia supplying legit bunker fuel to the IJN.


He can’t post a legit link because it doesn’t exist. The notion Russia supplied Japan with oil throughout WWII is beyond laughable.

1. Russia needed all the oil it could produce.
2. Russia was heavily reliant on Lend Lease supplies of a myriad of items from the US. They’d never risk the flow of supplies from the US to sell oil to Japan.
3. Between 1932 and 1939, the Soviets and Japan had a series of border clashes in Manchuria culminating in a massive battle in 1939. Link
Posted by CornbreadFed
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:17 pm to
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He can’t post a legit link because it doesn’t exist. The notion Russia supplied Japan with oil throughout WWII is beyond laughable. 1. Russia needed all the oil it could produce. 2. Russia was heavily reliant on Lend Lease supplies of a myriad of items from the US. They’d never risk the flow of supplies from the US to sell oil to Japan. 3. Between 1932 and 1939, the Soviets and Japan had a series of border clashes in Manchuria culminating in a massive battle in 1939. Link


Did you get this from Star Wars Revenge of the Sith?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:19 pm to
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Why so emotional, Darth? Did you spill paint or glue on one of children's plastic model airplanes you're working on? Calm down before you stroke out. This ain't that big of a deal.


There is nothing emotional about me calling you an idiot. It’s a simple statement of fact.

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Okay, so why did the author of the article I linked to use the phrase "Japan also had a concession from the USSR to mine on Sakhalin Island..."?


Because he’s either and idiot like you, or doesn’t know his arse from a hole in the ground.

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Maybe you know for a fact that Japan extracted crude ONLY from the southern section that it controlled and not from the northern Russian part.


Ax a matter of fact, I do know Japan did not get oil from northern Sakhalin.

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But if that's the case, why would Japan need a "concession" from the USSR to mine crude from territory which Japan owned? The "concession" sure sounds like the USSR gave Japan permission to extract crude from its territory. But I could be wrong about that. Or, maybe you're wrong about that...


You are, in fact, wrong.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:20 pm to
It grinds my gears to give anyone who wore bell bottoms as part of their uniforms credit, but the Navy won WW2. And the submariners even moreso in the Pacific.

If the Navy Ordnance Bureau hadn't have refused to fix the Mark 14 torpedo problems for a year and a half, the Pacific war would have been over in '44.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:21 pm to
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2. Russia was heavily reliant on Lend Lease supplies of a myriad of items from the US. They’d never risk the flow of supplies from the US to sell oil to Japan.

This goes back to my battle of the Atlantic post earlier in the thread. Russia was always going to be fricked without the US/RN/RCN sending convoy after convoy across the Atlantic.

The reds thew bodies at the war, those bodies were only sustained by North American goods making their way across the Atlantic.

But hey, Japan had a pepsi straw in some no name island taking oil from Russia according to this goon
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:21 pm to
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CornbreadFed


Shut up, boy. The adults are talking.
Posted by Breauxsif
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:23 pm to
Must be an 08 Alt
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:26 pm to
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Must be an 08 Alt


I haven’t thought of that. But it makes sense.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:29 pm to
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The reds thew bodies at the war, those bodies were only sustained by North American goods making their way across the Atlantic.



Sounds like a war going on today.

Thing is our ally doesn't have the bodies.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:32 pm to
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Put down the vodka brother.
I don't drink alcohol. At least not for the last 12 years.
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I’ll post a link of you supporting Russia in this war when you post a legit link of Russia supplying legit bunker fuel to the IJN.
Since I never claimed that "Russia supplied legit bunker fuel to the IJN," I don't feel a need to post a link of such a claim.

And since I definitely DON'T support Russia in their war with Ukraine, I'll save you the time: don't look for such a post by me. You won't find one. My stance on this war...posted last week
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Sorry your Reddit link that has a tertiary link to the Russian State’s O&G industry doesn’t count.
I googled (actually I use DuckDuckGo for my internet searches, not Google) "did Japan get oil from the USSR during world war II?" and the article I linked was the first of several articles that were listed.

And I don't see where the article I linked to has any connection with Reddit or "the Russian State's O&G industry." But since I've never used Reddit in my life and I've never read articles published by the Russian O&G industry, maybe I just don't recognize the connection to them.

Or, maybe you just continue to make up stuff about me.
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