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re: 3 years later, and it's still mind-boggling how many people refuse see it.

Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12834 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:11 pm to
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Use actual evidence to claim fraud, not meaningless "benchmarks"


They aren’t “meaningless”. I don’t think you realize just how unlikely it is for a candidate to lose when he wins that many bellwethers, counties, and the 3 states I listed. It’s almost as statistically improbable as Biden going up by ridiculous margins after the counting stopped.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12834 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:18 pm to
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Nothing in that tweet means anything.


You just told us all how stupid you are if you don’t know the significance of that data.

Bellwethers:
In the context of politics, a bellwether refers to a specific region or demographic group that is seen as a reliable indicator or predictor of the overall outcome of an election. These areas are often considered representative of the broader electorate or are historically known for aligning their voting patterns with the final result of a presidential election. Bellwethers can be states, counties, or even specific voting precincts.
The significance of bellwethers lies in their ability to provide insights into the political mood and preferences of the electorate. They can serve as early indicators of larger trends and help political analysts and campaigns gauge the overall sentiment of voters. Winning or losing a bellwether can shape the narrative of an election and influence public perception.

Number of counties won:
In the United States, presidential elections are not determined solely by the popular vote but also by the Electoral College system. Each state is allocated a certain number of electoral votes based on its representation in Congress, and the candidate who secures a majority of electoral votes (270 out of 538) wins the presidency.
Counties are geographical divisions within states, and winning a county generally means that a candidate has received more votes from the residents of that particular county. The number of counties won by a candidate reflects their level of support across different regions within a state or across multiple states.

Winning Florida, Ohio, and Iowa:
Florida, Ohio, and Iowa are often considered key battleground states in U.S. presidential elections. Winning these states can significantly impact a candidate's likelihood of winning the overall election due to their historical voting patterns and the number of electoral votes they possess.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18107 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:19 pm to
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They aren’t “meaningless”. I don’t think you realize just how unlikely it is for a candidate to lose when he wins that many bellwethers, counties, and the 3 states I listed. It’s almost as statistically improbable as Biden going up by ridiculous margins after the counting stopped.

I think there's always fraud in elections. We don't care enough to root that shite out. I also believe there was far more fraud in 2020 than normal - why would the election be the one thing that year that worked as normal?

But to your post - a great deal of the "unlikelihood" relates to the BS voting measures adopted due to Covid. It really shouldn't be surprising that big blue cities were able to harvest shite tons of votes from areas that typically don't turn out, and that those votes broke 90/10 for the pedophile.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42904 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:24 pm to
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The difference is COVID voting.

this was totally evident from the day they announced massive absentee-ballot mailout for all. A bunch of us raised that concern the very day it was announced.

THEN when they started messing around with how that was going to be done - voting way way early - accepting mail-ins later and later - eliminating signature verification requirements - etc etc there were many of us who PREDICTED the late night shenanigans almost to a T.

It was no secret -
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16490 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Number of counties each candidate won:
•Obama 873
• Trump 2,547
• Biden 509


This is the one that stands out to me the most.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26772 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:26 pm to
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Bellwethers:

Demographics change
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Number of counties won

Demographics change
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Winning Florida, Ohio, and Iowa:

Demographics change

Historical trends change. Political trends change. The political "bellweathers" that applied in the 90's will not apply in perpetuity.

Highest voter turnout as a % of eligible voters in 60+ years also results in higher overall numbers, as well as statewide and county-wide numbers being more skewed towards the result of urban/more populated areas in those jurisdictions.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 12:30 pm
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12834 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:27 pm to
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The people alleging some kind of nefarious cloak-and-dagger conspiracy are absurd


Tell me the reason why all of the swing states simultaneously paused counting for the first time in history when everyone was in bed.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29550 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:29 pm to
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Our DimProg board friends will tell you with a straight face that a huge chunk of that 81 million (alleged) people were motivated to come out in record numbers in order to vote AGAINST the bad orange guy.

They had the Covid death ticker rolling with reckless abandon, no mention of accuracy just chugging away as the bodies stacked up … oh wait.. that was just cnn propaganda against the Orange man and those numbers are now widely considered way overflated

Remember when Biden would stay in his basement and not tell people
His covid plan? If his plan was so great and better than trumps, He would sacrifice Americans so as to not share his wisdom

I remember ….

It’s so sketchy
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18107 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:31 pm to
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They had the Covid death ticker rolling with reckless abandon, no mention of accuracy just chugging away as the bodies stacked up … oh wait.. that was just cnn propaganda against the Orange man and those numbers are now widely considered way overflated

Overinflated, yes. Ridiculously so. But to be clear, CNN was reporting Covid deaths as per Trump's own administration.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12834 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:31 pm to
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But to your post - a great deal of the "unlikelihood" relates to the BS voting measures adopted due to Covid. It really shouldn't be surprising that big blue cities were able to harvest shite tons of votes from areas that typically don't turn out, and that those votes broke 90/10 for the pedophile.


It also relates to all of the swing states pausing counting for the first time in history when the eventual “loser” was winning.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12834 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:32 pm to
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Demographics change


History doesn’t.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7130 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Our DimProg board friends will tell you with a straight face that a huge chunk of that 81 million (alleged) people were motivated to come out in record numbers in order to vote AGAINST the bad orange guy.


Voting was easier than ever in 2020. You don't have to be a "DimProg" to understand that. Add on what a polarizing figure Trump is and yes there were people who could sit on their couch and vote against Trump and not necessarily FOR Biden. The idea that all of Trumps nearly 75 million votes were legitimate but Biden's 81 million aren't is silly. Both were helped greatly by mail in voting and neither candidate gets close to their 2020 total without it.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26772 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:35 pm to
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History doesn’t.

Trends do.

Guess what, Ohio, Iowa, and Florida aren't even competitive in POTUS elections anymore. Why would they remain "bellweather" states? Do you think New York and Illinois are bellweather states still because they were bellweather states in the early 20th Century? No, of course you don't, because demographics change, political forces change, and trends change.

This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 12:37 pm
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9759 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:36 pm to
Ronbots say it was totally legit
Posted by UGA_3281
Ga
Member since Apr 2023
166 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:39 pm to
Keep coping lol
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22095 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:39 pm to
Smart people see how dumb you morons look who spout nonsense.



Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42904 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:40 pm to
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It really shouldn't be surprising that big blue cities were able to harvest shite tons of votes from areas that typically don't turn out, and that those votes broke 90/10 for the pedophile.

hell - it surprised nobody - anyone with a brain KNEW the 'harvesters' were going to work their magic.

which is why it should NOT have been allowed

voting is about the most sacred DUTY a responsible citizen (outside military, police, and emergency troops)is ever called to perform. We don't allow drunked people to willy nilly drive vehicles because there is a solemn RESPONSIBILITY that ever citizen assumes when they choose to act in a way that involves other people. You are NOT allowed to inflict your own shortcomings and laxidaisical habits onto others.

YET - we are perfectly OK with dumping a "ballot" that represents every NAME that appears in on the registration rolls onto any 'address' whether it is nothing but a street intersection or not - and allowing "harvesters" to go glean those ballots and find find someone to afix a "signature" to it and then treat it as if it were a piece of DEVINE REVELATION - to be "protected" above ALL other interests. THAT "ballot" must be treated as sacred as an original copy of the Declaration of Independence. Anyone who tries to point out that the 'signature' is not readable, or that the 'address' doesn't actually exist, and that 'name' has never ever voted since the beginning of time is out to DESTROY DEMOCRATY.

And not ONE officer of the court ANYWHERE these offenses took place has ANY interest in VALIDATED any of the bullshittery going on. - they just question YOUR motives and being 'tyrannical' for even asking the question. NOTWITHSTANDING the continued 5-year whine from DEMOCRATs over past elections they claim they were CHEATED out of.

it is all a farce writ large - and we are on the route to repeating the same thing again - only wider spread this time. 2016 = mostly presidential, 2018 = congressional and local 2020 = primarily presidential plus the gains from 2018 = 2024 +++ = every election down to dog-catcher.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26673 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:41 pm to
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The difference is COVID voting. Anyone who denies that MIV was leveraged to deliver the election to the dems is hopelessly lost.



This coupled with literally no signature verification, and, voila, a dementia patient is your president
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42904 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 12:44 pm to
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Both were helped greatly by mail in voting

you were on logical ground up until this

unless you mean that a few thousand for Trump and 15million for Biden are both 'helped greatly'

without mail-in ballots, Biden would have struggled to win the west coast and New England states. Would have been a total wipeout.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
4864 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:07 pm to
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But DRUMPF WAS UNELECTABLE!


Remains the case today.
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