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Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:28 pm
Posted by musicman1026
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Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:28 pm
Married with a 1-year-old and 2nd child due in August.
Both my wife and I have full-time jobs. She is a teacher and I’m in Sales

Together we make about $120,000 per year. I’m about 70k and she is about 50k. After taxes and withholdings, we bring home about $7,000/m

We have about 9k in credit card debt and another 20k in student loans.
I drive a truck that is $500 a month (worth 32k, owe 26k)
She drives a car that is $550 a month (worth 30k, owe 23k)
The mortgage is $1400/m
Monthly bills range from $1800 – 2300/m

Our situation is in August when my second son is born, my wife will be on unpaid maternity leave for about 12 -14 weeks. We will lose her income during that time. Which we will certainly be upside down without her income. What advice can anyone provide?

The second issue is it really pains me to enroll both of my children in childcare for almost $2000 a month, but I feel like there isn’t another option. My wife talks about being a stay home mom, but I can’t fathom living on my income alone and losing her benefits like health care. We have a nice policy through the state that would be impossible to buy through the marketplace.

Thoughts, comments, and advice would be appreciated.

Edit: Thank you for all the feedback and advice. We are going to sell the vehicles and tighten up the budget. I'm going to track where every dollar goes and find every opportunity to cut.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 1:34 pm
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12168 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:34 pm to
Can you increase your sales income or work additional hours somewhere else?

Does your company offer any insurance options?

If she stayed home until the kids are in school, would she then go back?
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:36 pm to
You could’ve used a rubber, but that option is off the table now so you’re gonna have to find a way to make more money
Posted by musicman1026
Central
Member since Oct 2021
25 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:37 pm to
I might have something in the works for a higher-paying position, but I'm not counting on it yet. Maybe another 15k a year if it comes through. My company is too small to offer benefits like insurance.

She intends to return to teaching when the kids are old enough to go to school themselves.
Posted by Witty_Username
Member since Jul 2021
676 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:40 pm to
Do you have any savings? I would try to knock that credit card debt sooner than later. What makes up the $9k in credit card debt?
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12168 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:42 pm to
I was in a similar situation, but my company did offer insurance.

She stayed home about 5-6 years until both were in school. Looking back, we would do it again in a heartbeat.

Her plans were to go back soon after the baby was born, but that changed. She remembers asking me if it was an option to stay home. I said sure, but we're not going out to eat and will cut back on our spending. She is now a retired teacher and grandmother.
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 3:44 pm
Posted by musicman1026
Central
Member since Oct 2021
25 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:43 pm to
The goal was always to have a family, just not so close in age!
Posted by musicman1026
Central
Member since Oct 2021
25 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:44 pm to
Half of it is medical bills from the pregnancy from last year. The other half is crap I shouldn't have bought but at least it's 0% interest til next year.

I don't have much savings. Just an emergency fund of about 2k
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 3:46 pm
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
977 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:52 pm to
It sounds like your wife will need to keep working. Individual insurance is going to be more expensive and have higher deductibles. If she’s a teacher she will have summers and holidays off with the kids.

Once you pay the cars off don’t run out and buy new ones. That will be a lot of extra money to start getting ahead
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Monthly bills range from $1800 – 2300/m



Are you saying there is another 1800 to 2300 in addition to the itemized list? I'll assume it is.. That's $4750 per month.

Your income alone leaves you with $1083 positive





quote:

The second issue is it really pains me to enroll both of my children in childcare for almost $2000 a month, but I feel like there isn’t another option. My wife talks about being a stay home mom, but I can’t fathom living on my income alone and losing her benefits like health care. We have a nice policy through the state that would be impossible to buy through the marketplace.



Not sure what state you are in nor area. There are pros and cons to your situation. These are the ones I want you to be aware of:

1- Teaching a child at home has massive benefits. The bond, the "home training", just can not be replaced by the federal or state Gov. There is no amount of value that can be placed on that.

2- On your wife's income, She is only going to produce $25K per year after paying child care. That's means that's the target goal to make up if you wish to continue your current level of living. But most people can find expenses to trim.


Example... Is $23K car needed? If you are not upside down in it, can you sell it and buy an older model for now? That frees up $550 per month.

Example on how to make extra income at home while teaching kids are out there. I know a mom that does crafts and she does pretty well with it.

Another example is a remote/online teacher. I did a quick search for you:

Benefits

Teaching just 60 minutes part-time per day earns you between $420-650 a month

The pay: Depends on your experience, but averages around $9.5 per 25-minute class, i.e

Time of day: You choose your schedule from available class slots; peak student demand hours are listed below

Location: Conveniently teach remotely from your home - no commute!

Pay: $14.00 to $22.00 /hour




In short, it can be done.




Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Looking back, we would do it again in a heartbeat.



Me either! It made me stronger, it made our family tighter. Kids are very well grounded and always tested higher than their piers in school.


Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Half of it is medical bills from the pregnancy from last year. The other half is crap I shouldn't have bought but at least it's 0% interest til next year.

I don't have much savings. Just an emergency fund of about 2k




None of that matters at this point. What matters is the plan forward for you and your family!


Posted by Witty_Username
Member since Jul 2021
676 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

2- On your wife's income, She is only going to produce $25K per year after paying child care. That's means that's the target goal to make up if you wish to continue your current level of living. But most people can find expenses to trim.



The childcare cost would really be more like $18k-$20k since they wouldn't be paying for summers, so the replacement income would need to be around $30k.

I agree with taking a look at the cars though. Would it suck to drive 2 beaters for a few years? Yeah, but wouldn't it be nice to not have to drop $1000+/month just to drive?

OP also mentioned half the credit card debt is crap he shouldn't have bought. I'd either sell the crap you shouldn't have bought if you can to pay toward that debt or figure out a way to create some self control to not spend money you don't have. I'm not trying to be a douche, but don't go into debt for stupid stuff.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

OP also mentioned half the credit card debt is crap he shouldn't have bought. I'd either sell the crap you shouldn't have bought if you can to pay toward that debt or figure out a way to create some self control to not spend money you don't have. I'm not trying to be a douche, but don't go into debt for stupid stuff.


Right, and his numbers are not defined either. If everything listed was, they have a massive leak.

120K per year with $4750 per month in expenses and only 2K in savings.

That's $57,000 is in expenses for the year. If you add the 18K in child care, that's $75,000. That's roughly $45,000 that has disappeared.... per year.


Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25881 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:16 pm to
What are the monthly bills? That seems like a lot. You should sell both cars and use the “equity” to pay down debt and buy cheaper cars (each under 20k).
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47195 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

My company is too small to offer benefits like insurance.


sounds like some bs from the company. how many employees?
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23333 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:28 pm to
Bro pay the credit card off today.

Do you have a savings? Retirement?
Posted by musicman1026
Central
Member since Oct 2021
25 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

sounds like some bs from the company. how many employees?


We have 4 employees including myself.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26029 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:30 pm to
I suggest your wife look into the online teaching.

I have neighbors making great money teaching private school kids in California in an online classroom.

And the more our world turns to whatever, I see people with resources turning to alternative schooling (online with live teachers).

It is easier said than done. But trading down on the autos makes sense.
I've been able to find reliable cars for cheap. But it takes time (if you are rushed, the end result usually doesn't turn out as planned).

I understand some of the credit card debt. There is never a reason to carry it. But with medical bills, you do what you have to.
Make it your life's mission to pay that off asap. Ramen noodles. Hot dogs. Eggs. Rice. A "treat" should be a $5 pizza from little caesars. Prove to yourself that you can knock that debt off before August with the money you are currently making.

Congrats on the 2nd child.
Good luck!
Posted by musicman1026
Central
Member since Oct 2021
25 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:31 pm to
Take home is about 75 - 80k after taxes.
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