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re: Sex and Gender. Let's split the difference.

Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by Smeg
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:35 pm to
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There was never a problem to begin with. Sex and Gender are the same.

Well, inanimate objects have been gendered for a long time. I used boats in my example, but the concept has applied to many things before.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:36 pm to
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Well, inanimate objects have been gendered for a long time. I used boats in my example, but the concept has applied to many things before.


People do do this, but I never have.

I don’t give names to my cars or any if that shite either.
Posted by LoneStar23
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:52 pm to
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Well, inanimate objects have been gendered for a long time. I used boats in my example, but the concept has applied to many things before.


The mental gymnastics your type of people do is insane
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:04 pm to
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Hoping to bring both the left and the right together.

Let's agree that sex and gender are two different things.

Gender can be used without regard for biological sex. For instance, we can call a boat a female, even though it has neither ovaries or a johnson.

Sex can be related to biological sex / chromosomes.

If we can agree to this, then let's agree to separate sports and bathrooms based on sex, not gender?

Can we all be happy with this?


No, that's ridiculous.

Body Dysmorphic Disorder isn't cured by feeding it any more than anorexia is cured by promoting diet pills called "Stop Being Such A Fatass" to the anorexic. It's an attempt to lie to one's self and then a demand on the rest of the world to lie as well in order to make accepting the lie easier.


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Well, inanimate objects have been gendered for a long time. I used boats in my example, but the concept has applied to many things before.


That is an anthropomorphism done with the common understanding that the fact that inanimate objects don't actually have sexual organs nor masculine/effeminate behaviors is self-evident (and thus not actually male nor female).

In other words, you're attempting to base your argument on reasonings below that of a child.

Gender has always meant the same as biological sex. The etymology of the word derives originally from the Latin genus. Genus has been so concrete that it's been used for biological taxonomy classifications for centuries.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 10:38 pm to
This isn’t difficult. We get a lot of our words directly from Latin and Latin has gendered nouns. Boat or “navis” is female in Latin. Same reason we call cities or countries “she.” Urbs is the Latin for city and that is also a feminine noun.

We have been doing this for a lot longer than the woke nerds have been around trying to change ever societal norm ever created since the dawn of civilization.
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