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Stopping the 401k bleeding. Long

Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:26 pm
Posted by JBM210
Member since Dec 2010
3192 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:26 pm
I am not as educated as I should be here so hence this question. I am 60 yrs old. Currently not contributing due to my job being fairly new and being strapped financially because of a medical situation with my wife. Don’t have a ton in my 401 k but was hoping to keep what I have for retirement. Will be my only income with SS. I have lost 30% of my funds since Biden took office. Thought I had moved my elections into more stable options but apparently not. I will list where my funds are looking for some guidance. I am not looking to make money. Just stop the losses. 1-PHYQX(PGIM High Yield R6)(Down big). 2-PEOPX(BNYM S&P 500 Index. 3-FA Stable Value II(No gain or loss). 4-GIBIX(GUGHM TOT RIN BD IS)(Down big). 5-FBGKX(FID Blue Chip Gr k. 6-BPRAX(Blkrx Infl Protect A(Down a good bit). 7-JMGMX(JPM Mid cap Grth R6. Should I just move almost everything into the FA Stable Value II account for awhile? Thanks in advance.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
19762 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:34 pm to
6 month T notes hit 5.14% today.
That’s guaranteed.

30% in that span is bad. Worst than most.
But it’s got little to do with Biden.

Can someone learn me on 401k allocation?
Why are you in so many funds? Is someone from the outside managing the account?
For your age, a combination of VTI and SCHD or VMY would be much better than -30%

This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 7:50 pm
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1185 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:42 pm to
Enjoy social security my friend.
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1634 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:17 pm to
This doesn’t make much sense. Only your growth funds are anywhere close to 30% down. Unless you have the great majority of your funds in those two, you can’t possibly be down 30%.

You can’t hide under a rock. Pay an advisor for an hour of their time to just explain what you have and how to make changes in your allocation. Move some to the value side. Get out of junk bonds.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
13373 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 11:52 pm to
You lost 30%?
The S&P 500 is down only half that from its all time high.
You may be better off just sticking with an index fund.
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
6085 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:59 am to
I was down 30% last year, but my entire 401k was in high growth. I'm only 33 though so I don't really give a shite. Moved a good bit from FAGCX to OIERX and will let the rest ride. If you are that close to retirement you should have already moved your money to something more stable like money market or bond funds. You can't afford a 20-30% pull back. But at this point I'm not sure that it matters.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14895 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 9:23 am to
Remember that when you’re feeling maximum pain and want to pull out of the market is the time when you probably need to stay invested and keep acquiring. 2008 taught me this lesson hard.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 10:07 am
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2828 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Don’t have a ton in my 401 k but was hoping to keep what I have for retirement.


Sounds like your risk tolerance is at "zero" right now. Usually it is best to go to money market funds when that's the case until you can figure out the next step. The good news is money market funds are paying around 4.5% +/-.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42841 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 2:52 pm to
If you are still trying to time the market at 60, I hope your expenses are low enough to live on SS.
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2007 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:56 am to
The market will bounce back. I would avoid going to money market, unless you really want to guarantee no more losses.

Now is actually a time to start getting into bonds, but you rode them all the way down, so your options are limited.

Who picked these funds you listed? If it’s a financial advisor, fire them immediately.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5832 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:39 pm to
Stop switching investments, restart your contributions, and don't check your balance for at least two years.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11441 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:14 am to
Yeah, bond funds aren't bonds so #1 got hammered by duration risk and is highly correlated with your equity holdings. Basically you were sold on diversification that isn't there. I'd be putting any cash you have into T-bills. They will outperform equities and corporate bonds in the short to medium term (1-2 years).
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