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re: Fight Fire With Fire, Only Solution

Posted on 2/26/23 at 10:25 am to
Posted by WhereIsMyBestLife
Member since Feb 2023
19 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 10:25 am to
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Cops were given carte blanche to stop, frisk, and clean up the city, and they did.


Would never last now. Would be struck down by a judge within a week.
Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3198 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 10:31 am to
Let some judge strike it down but frick it, keep on doing it. These thugs get arrested, over and over, put in jail, have to make bail, etc., at least you bog them down for a while. Finally you might save a life or two along the way.

I know far left judges turn them out, but backlog their asses where they have to keep showing up for work rather than sitting in their off-limit office thrones. They are to blame as well.

Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5328 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Would never last now. Would be struck down by a judge within a week.


As well it should be, seeing how it’s unconstitutional.
There are flaws and perils with freedom. Security is one of them.

We have a cultural and character problem within our major American cities. No amount of laws or enforcement will change that. It’s been coming for many decades, and it began with the removal of the father from the family unit (drug war policies) coupled with the welfare state (great society). The road to hell is paved with good intentions I suppose.
Posted by zuluboudreaux
God’s country USA
Member since Jan 2008
704 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 1:22 pm to
Law enforcement can conduct a Terry stop using reasonable suspicion - very constitutional.

Louisiana Art. 215.1. Temporary questioning of persons in public places; frisk and search for weapons

A. A law enforcement officer may stop a person in a public place whom he reasonably suspects is committing, has committed, or is about to commit an offense and may demand of him his name, address, and an explanation of his actions.

B. When a law enforcement officer has stopped a person for questioning pursuant to this Article and reasonably suspects that he is in danger, he may frisk the outer clothing of such person for a dangerous weapon. If the law enforcement officer reasonably suspects the person possesses a dangerous weapon, he may search the person. (Note that frisk is not the same as a search. An officer is limited in exactly how they frisk the suspect.)

C. If the law enforcement officer finds a dangerous weapon, he may take and keep it until the completion of the questioning, at which time he shall either return it, if lawfully possessed, or arrest such person.

D. During detention of an alleged violator of any provision of the motor vehicle laws of this state, an officer may not detain a motorist for a period of time longer than reasonably necessary to complete the investigation of the violation and issuance of a citation for the violation, absent reasonable suspicion of additional criminal activity. However, nothing herein shall prohibit a peace officer from compelling or instructing the motorist to comply with administrative or other legal requirements of Title 32 or Title 47 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950.
Added by Acts 1968, No. 305, §1. Amended by Acts 1982, No. 686, §1; Acts 1983, 1st Ex. Sess., No. 32, §1; Acts 1997, No. 759, §3, eff. July 10, 1997.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20165 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 3:11 pm to
Terry stop and frisk was ruled constitutional so long as there is articulable reasonable suspicion. (ie, less than probable cause).

Terry v. Ohio summary
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