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Why does college football in the state of Texas underachieve so much?
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:11 am
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:11 am
The entire state of Texas has ONE college football FBS national championship in the last 52 years.
That’s with 5 (soon to be 6) Power 5 programs and 12 total FBS programs. It’s also while being in the state that always finishes in the top 3 in the country for top recruits produced annually.
Football national championships (FBS) by state since 1970:
Alabama - 11
Florida - 11
California - 4
Georgia - 4
Nebraska - 4
Oklahoma - 4
Indiana - 3
Louisiana - 3
Pennsylvania - 3
South Carolina - 3
Ohio - 2
Colorado - 1
Michigan - 1
Tennessee - 1
Texas -1
Utah - 1
Washington - 1
Thoughts?
That’s with 5 (soon to be 6) Power 5 programs and 12 total FBS programs. It’s also while being in the state that always finishes in the top 3 in the country for top recruits produced annually.
Football national championships (FBS) by state since 1970:
Alabama - 11
Florida - 11
California - 4
Georgia - 4
Nebraska - 4
Oklahoma - 4
Indiana - 3
Louisiana - 3
Pennsylvania - 3
South Carolina - 3
Ohio - 2
Colorado - 1
Michigan - 1
Tennessee - 1
Texas -1
Utah - 1
Washington - 1
Thoughts?
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Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:15 am to BranchDawg
The Power 5 thing is about to die off and the Big 12 will not be considered a major conference. I’m not sure it will exist at all in 5 years
As far as what happened to them. Oklahoma joining their league crushed the last 25 years. Not sure about the 70s and 80s.
As far as what happened to them. Oklahoma joining their league crushed the last 25 years. Not sure about the 70s and 80s.
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 8:19 am
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:18 am to BranchDawg
It’s too political. Kids in HS have had enough of Texas by the time college rolls around and they go out of state.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:21 am to BranchDawg
Because the Texas recruits go to the SEC.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:21 am to BranchDawg
Because Louisiana takes all of their talent. We own the state of Texas when it comes to sports.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:22 am to BranchDawg
Texas is 3x bigger than say, Georgia, with 5-6 P5 programs. Plus Oklahoma who steals a ton of our recruits.
Georgia has one. Texas is over saturated with P5 college football teams. It’s amazing that any of them can ever even finish ranked.
Georgia has one. Texas is over saturated with P5 college football teams. It’s amazing that any of them can ever even finish ranked.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:23 am to The Third Leg
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The Power 5 thing is about to die off and the Big 12 will not be considered a major conference. I’m not sure it will exist at all in 5 years
I bet you 10k the big 12 is still around in 5 years. Let me know.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:26 am to justaniceguy
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with 5-6 P5 programs. Plus Oklahoma who steals a ton of our recruits. Georgia has one.
Georgia has two P5 programs. Yes, Tech sucks now, but they won a natty in ‘90.
Also, Bama, Auburn, Clemson, South Carolina and Tennessee rely HEAVILY on recruiting Georgia, so the Oklahoma issue is far from unique to Texas.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:38 am to BranchDawg
Ok well Texas has 6 P5 programs that can actually recruit well. All are better than Tech.
These states also recruit from texas. Including Georgia. Add Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi.
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Also, Bama, Auburn, Clemson, South Carolina and Tennessee rely HEAVILY on recruiting Georgia
These states also recruit from texas. Including Georgia. Add Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:43 am to BranchDawg
Texas had a team in the national championship this year and one in 2009. They won in 2005.
That’s more than the states of Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi can claim. I don’t things are as bad as you say. If recruits were required to stay in the same state then you might have an argument.
That’s more than the states of Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi can claim. I don’t things are as bad as you say. If recruits were required to stay in the same state then you might have an argument.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:43 am to justaniceguy
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These states also recruit from texas. Including Georgia. Add Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi.
Yup, and the same happens in Florida and California. Which is why the Oklahoma issue you brought up is not an issue.
If Georgia isn’t a satisfactory comparison, why not Florida? They get poached from everybody in the country and all three major programs there have churned out multiple natties.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:47 am to BranchDawg
Florida’s recent success seems about on par with Texas to me. Historically UT is better than any Florida school and is the only blue blood but I would say FSU, Miami, and UF are all above A&M (the next best Texas school historically?). Why is this? Who knows. Texas has historical dominance which seems to dominate the state of texas and no other Texas school has done anything in comparison. It seems to be more spread out in Florida.
Florida is probably a much more attractive place to live than texas (or probably anywhere else in the south) so I wonder if that has any slight bearing on it.
Florida is probably a much more attractive place to live than texas (or probably anywhere else in the south) so I wonder if that has any slight bearing on it.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:50 am to justaniceguy
quote:
I bet you 10k the big 12 is still around in 5 years. Let me know.
It will be the new mountain west if it survives.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:51 am to BranchDawg
quote:every Florida team fell off when recruiting became national
They get poached from everybody in the country and all three major programs there have churned out multiple natties.
As for Texas, we overrate their HS ball because their schools are bigger than everyone else’s and think it must translate to college.
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 8:54 am
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:10 am to The Third Leg
quote:
It will be the new mountain west if it survives
They literally just had a team win a playoff game and play for the title.
It's going to be fine, it'll have competitive, entertaining football with teams that sometimes make a run (just like the ACC and Pac) and hands down the best basketball conference in the country.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:15 am to The Third Leg
quote:
The Power 5 thing is about to die off and the Big 12 will not be considered a major conference.
quote:
Iowa Fan
Remember when the last place team in the Big 12 beat Iowa? 4/5 of the Big Ten sucks arse
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:24 am to chalmetteowl
Florida teams started to recede with the ascendancy of UCF in the late 90's and early 00's. You now had 4 D1 teams in the state.....throw in USF back in 2004 -2007 and Jim Leavitt stealthily poaching kids from Miami an UF and you had a dilution. Plus you had schools like Michigan going to places like Deerfield Beach and getting top recruits.
In the 80s and 90s Florida was the place for football. All those players from St Thomas Aquinas and other Miami schools made news. Then someone also found out about the kids out of Belle Glade and places like Pahokee which before were exclusively Miami and UF.
In the 80s and 90s Florida was the place for football. All those players from St Thomas Aquinas and other Miami schools made news. Then someone also found out about the kids out of Belle Glade and places like Pahokee which before were exclusively Miami and UF.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:26 am to HangmanPage1
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It’s too political. Kids in HS have had enough of Texas by the time college rolls around and they go out of state.
Do you people ever get tired of pulling shite out of your arse?
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:27 am to sta4ever
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Because Louisiana takes all of their talent. We own the state of Texas when it comes to sports.
Ok, but why?
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:28 am to justaniceguy
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If recruits were required to stay in the same state then you might have an argument.
But why are Texas recruits leaving?
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