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re: Ruby Ridge - Why did the Govt get obsessed with Randy Weaver?

Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:15 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:15 am to
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I thought they solicited him to be an informant on the aryan brotherhood group and he refused. Then to force him to comply they entrapped him to modify a shotgun so they could hold those charges over his head to force compliance to spy on the brotherhood for them.
^^^This.

They used FBI informants to entice him to the white supremacy meetings. He wasn't into it. Because of his former Army Ranger background they recruited him to be an informant. He refused. So they enticed him to create a sawed off shotgun and gave him money & taped him doing it.

Then they got a bench warrant for his arrest, made the court date bogus. Then could have easily brought him in in peace when he was in town and they were following him.

Instead, they waited and surrounded his property, ambushed him, from a far distance shot his son dead. Then from a sharp shooters aim also shot his wife on the porch dead while she was holding their small baby.

Bill Barr had a fake trial in DC and said it was rogue action, a rogue agent. No one took responsibility for the shoot to kill orders. The one daughter got a settlement from the DOJ and lives on a ranch.

All because he lived rural, homeschooled and he would not be a narc, they didn't like that. Clinton was a POS that went after created far right crazies.
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:12 am to
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All because he lived rural, homeschooled and he would not be a narc, they didn't like that. Clinton was a POS that went after created far right crazies.


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Ruby Ridge was the site of an eleven-day siege in 1992 in Boundary County, Idaho, near


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In addition to allegations of sexual abuse and misconduct, Koresh and his followers were suspected of stockpiling illegal weapons. In May 1992, Chief Deputy Daniel Weyenberg of the McLennan County Sheriff's Department called the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) to notify them that his office had been contacted by a local UPS representative concerned about a report by a local driver. The UPS driver said a package had broken open on delivery to the Branch Davidian residence, revealing firearms, inert grenade casings, and black powder.[citation needed] On June 9, the ATF opened a formal investigation and a week later it was classified as sensitive, "thereby calling for a high degree of oversight" from both Houston and headquarters.[


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Bill Clinton In office January 20, 1993 – January 20, 2001



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he ATF later claimed that the raid was moved up a day, to February 28, 1993, in response to the Waco Tribune-Herald's "The Sinful Messiah" series of articles (which the ATF had tried to prevent from being published).[40] Beginning February 1, ATF agents had three meetings with Tribune-Herald staff regarding a delay in publication of "The Sinful Messiah".


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To answer public questions about Ruby Ridge, the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Government Information held hearings between September 6 and October 19, 1995, and later issued a report calling for reforms in federal law enforcement to prevent a repeat of the losses of life at Ruby Ridge and restore public confidence in federal law enforcement.[5] It was observed that the Ruby Ridge incident and the 1993 Waco siege involved many of the same agencies (FBI HRT and ATF) and some of the same personnel (the FBI HRT commander).



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Randy Weaver and his daughters filed a wrongful death suit for $200 million which was related to the killing of his wife and son. In an out-of-court settlement in August 1995, the federal government awarded Randy Weaver $100,000 and it also awarded $1 million to each of his three daughters.




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American domestic terrorists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols claimed that revenge for the federal government's poor handling of Ruby Ridge and the Waco siege was their motivation for the Oklahoma City bombing. On April 19, 1995, the second anniversary of the fire that ended the Waco siege, they detonated a massive truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, killing 168 people, including numerous women and children; injuring 680 others, and destroying more than one third of the building.
Posted by Twenty 49
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:43 am to
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Then they got a bench warrant for his arrest, made the court date bogus. Then could have easily brought him in in peace when he was in town and they were following him.


I don't have first hand knowledge, but I saw a doc where they said Randy holed up and did not come down for weeks or months. The feds were content to keep waiting him out until the media started calling them out for letting this guy thumb his nose at the warrant by sitting in his house. To avoid more embarrassing PR, the feds elected to try to take him, then it went to shite.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31547 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 7:09 am to
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Clinton


People forget, GHW Bush was still reigning during the slaughter. Aug 1992.

But WJC took over in Jan 93, and he and Reno held no one accountable.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 7:10 am
Posted by Minnesota Tiger
Member since Oct 2005
4414 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:37 am to
The Ruby Ridge incident occurred before Clinton was elected.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56502 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:22 am to
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Then from a sharp shooters aim also shot his wife on the porch dead while she was holding their small baby.
The sniper who did this is the same one who shot kids running out of the combine at Waco. That sniper was charged with murder and defended by - Bill Barr.

It's always the same people.
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