re: Russia on the move with "most advanced tanks" into Ukraine from Belarus

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I don’t have the will to go over your whole spill and argue it all. From the very start you are wrong. Russia has proven that their air defenses suck by letting half assed drones/etc that are 20 plus years old technology get through and damage key infrastructure several times.

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1. Now talk to me about all the failures of the Patriot system. Here's a hint - far more than the Russian systems have had. Takes about five seconds to find multiple links about Patriot failures.

2. You seem to be referring to the drones that got into Russia. I don't think either of us knows all the details, but it appears that drone(s) were launched and flew within air corridors that passenger jets normally use, so they were not paid attention to, and were then shot down after they diverted. This situation is not indicative of a combat theater in Ukraine. It's a failure and fair to point out, but it does not sway the argument. Those conditions won't be present in the AO.

3. It is known by everyone in the world that pays attention to world military equipment, that the S400 and soon the S500 are the best systems on the planet.

Not sure why you continue with this. The fact that you try and dispute the S400 S500 as the best system in the world shows you are just uttering the talking points and not thinking about this.

When is Russia going to learn modern tanks are useless modern warfare. They are sitting ducks for advanced munitions and drones. Russia really doesn’t want to get into a who’s weapons are better war with the USA because they will lose bigly.

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When is Russia going to learn modern tanks are useless modern warfare. They are sitting ducks for advanced munitions and drones. Russia really doesn’t want to get into a who’s weapons are better war with the USA because they will lose bigly.

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Tanks are just as much a part of modern warfare as they ever were. Due to their size they often have some of the best countermeasures like reactive armor, which you can't just slap onto other vehicles. They still have an important role.

It's not always about who has the better hardware. When we went to the Balkans our high dollar sensors were getting fooled by people sticking telephone poles through car windshields. We dropped a lot of ordnance on those things thinking they were tanks.

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Ukraine is not going to win this war. And it's about to get real ugly.

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Well duh. Pretty obvious at this point that the US Empire has been working Ukraine for years to build up its defensive positions in order to create massive damage to the Russian first army as it tried to blitz krieg Ukraine. Russian would have eventually overcome but at Extremely high cost to both their first regular army and latest military equipment.


Instead Russia faked a blitz krieg against these heavily NATO defensive positions, and instead used their 2nd rated equipment and 2nd rated soldiers to slowly attack and barrage the Ukrainian forces in an artillery war over months.

When they didnt fall into the NATO trap the USA oligarchies drummed up their wartime propaganda that Russia was weak they couldnt beat a "ukranian army" ...that Russia has fully attacked the strong positions of Ukraine to over run them but were destroyed and pushed back. that it was the regular army. that their economy was being destroyed and they would have run out of weapons soon and if all this wouldnt have happened they would attack Kiev, then Brussels then Paris, then Baton Rouge! as the red army wave tried conquer the world!!!!! omg!!!

But alas only the extremely stupid idiots on the OT ate that shite up and the reality is rather obvious.

Serious question. What is the story with the pixelation of the background?

Trying to hide sources?

It makes the photo look like something from a video game.

So if its a real photo the Russians can't identify exactly where it was taken from.

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Russia really doesn’t want to get into a who’s weapons are better war with the USA

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Yeah? No worries, right?

IMO unless God intervenes, this war will spiral into a nuclear confrontation. I can see it coming.

War is punishment for sin, and there is a lot of evil in the world right now. Unfortunately in America, God has been kicked out of the marketplace, including the market of ideas, schools, colleges, the culture. With terrible predictable results.

The best a soul can do is pray, fast (if you're able), do corporal and spiritual works of mercy, and wait (correct - pray) for God to intervene.

The ONLY consolation I have is, based on the indicators defined in the Bible, we MUST be getting very close to the Second Coming of Our Lord and King Jesus Christ.

And nothing that has occurred in the history of man will match that majestic moment. Imagine the sky filled with legions of Angels praising the Lamb of God. Will we be startled when we're suddenly in the presence of long deceased relatives? As the dead rise from their graves.
I imagine Jesus standing at the gates of the New Jerusalem. A New Jerusalem with streets paved with gold, and diamonds and emeralds for doorknobs. Then Jesus opens the gates and He himself leads the elect through the pearly gates. Just like Moses lead the Hebrews to the Holy Land. Okay, I'm in imagine mode.

It's going to happen in God's time. In the meantime, maybe we should try to direct our attention towards serving and adoring Jesus and away from the demoniacs causing all this turmoil.

Christianity is about to celebrate the Birth of the Messiah. Let's stop for a while, gather in our Churches on Christmas Eve and Day, and celebrate the Birth of Baby Jesus. I can tell you this weary old man will be there, praising Him. I will join my creaky old voice in singing those beautiful Christmas Hymns. The same hymns I sang with my family as a little boy so very long ago.

Then while you worship Him, pray for Peace. Pray for the suffering people of Ukraine.

God does hear the prayers of the Penitent Sinner.

Jesus, I trust in you.

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Anyone got an update on who is winning at this point?

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Ukraine has made some gains in the past few months. But for all intents and purposes, it’s a stalemate now. Neither side is capable of delivering a knockout blow at this time. However, that can change. I believe there are five realistic possibilities in the near future:

1. Ukraine lunches a winter offensive, probably in January. Their goal should be to inflict another serious battlefield defeat on Russia with the goal being gaining leverage to open peace negotiations from a position of strength. The offensive is successful and a favorable peace for Ukraine follows.

2. The Ukrainian offensive fails, the Russians launch a counteroffensive and forces Ukraine to accept a peace favorable to Russia.

3. The Russians preempt the Ukrainians and launch their own offensive first. This buildup on Belarus could be the prelude. This offense either succeeds on its own or forces Ukraine to shift forces north (Ukraine cannot allow the supply lines from Europe to be cut so they will do whatever they can to stop of drive from the north) which then allows Russia to inflict a defeat on Ukraine in the south. Success in either should lead to a peace favorable for Russia.

4. The Russians preempt the Ukrainians, are defeated, and the Ukrainians launch a successful counteroffensive and inflict another serious defeat on Russia. This will most likely lead to a settled peace favorable to Ukraine.

5. The Russians preempt the Ukrainians but their offensive is unsuccessful. However, the Russians inflict enough damage to the Ukrainian army that it’s incapable of launching a counteroffensive. This will most likely result in a continuation of the stalemated war for an unknowable period of time.

(FWIW, I’m a neutral observer of this war and look at it from a purely military standpoint based upon over four decades of deep study of warfare from both a tactical and strategic standpoint. I have no emotional connection to either side)

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Peace is not an option, how the heck could we send more money if they agree to peace?!?

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If Ukraine wants a favorable outcome, it will have to come soon, most likely before Spring. They cannot sustain their losses much longer than that.