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Fans dilemma: next yr QB..pros and cons of each QB

Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:24 am
Posted by Perception
Member since Sep 2017
853 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:24 am
Daniels:
Pro: experience, you know what your getting from a Daniels run offense..fast as fucck. Beat Bama

Cons: He cannot throw consistently to be down the field threat…if they shut down his running lanes..he is screwed..see last 3 games..has problems reading defense

Nuss:
Pros…NFL arm, takes chances down the field..several LSU WRs name him first when talking about QBs

Cons: limited tape…makes several bone headed INTs or throws per game..sort of a gun slinger like Brett Farve (could be a pro or con here)

Walker:
Pro: highly ranked QB coming out of high school..live arm..came from a family of football players..dad played for LSU..some rank him ahead of Arch Manning based on potential.

Cons: very limited tape. Did not play Sr. Yr of high school..thus maybe why daddy Howard did not want coach to play him as a freshman.

Sound about right?
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
19405 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:30 am to
Ughhh.

Going to be a long off season
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6717 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Perception
Daniels:
Pro: experience, you know what your getting from a Daniels run offense..fast as fucck. Beat Bama

Cons: He cannot throw consistently to be down the field threat…if they shut down his running lanes..he is screwed..see last 3 games..has problems reading defense

Nuss:
Pros…NFL arm, takes chances down the field..several LSU WRs name him first when talking about QBs

Cons: limited tape…makes several bone headed INTs or throws per game..sort of a gun slinger like Brett Farve (could be a pro or con here)

Walker:
Pro: highly ranked QB coming out of high school..live arm..came from a family of football players..dad played for LSU..some rank him ahead of Arch Manning based on potential.

Cons: very limited tape. Did not play Sr. Yr of high school..thus maybe why daddy Howard did not want coach to play him as a freshman.

Sound about right?


This sounds very right.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288117 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:31 am to
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Did not play Sr. Yr of high school..thus maybe why daddy Howard did not want coach to play him as a freshman.


Huh
Posted by TheJuicey
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2019
4357 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:32 am to
Because of how important it is, you have to add protects the ball to Daniels Pros. He is the safe option and I would add high floor, low ceiling.

Overall good summary, but I would also change tape to low play time for Nuss. Essentially the same, but I think game experience is the key for Nuss to improve, unlike Daniels.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6713 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:35 am to
I’d say that’s pretty fair. I think it’s a huge concern that Barry Odom seemed to lay out a blueprint to exploit Jayden’s weaknesses and he hasn’t had a good game since
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7424 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:41 am to
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I think it’s a huge concern that Barry Odom seemed to lay out a blueprint to exploit Jayden’s weaknesses and he hasn’t had a good game since


What was in that blueprint?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42300 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Daniels:
Pro: experience, you know what your getting from a Daniels run offense..fast as fucck. Beat Bama

Cons: He cannot throw consistently to be down the field threat…if they shut down his running lanes..he is screwed..see last 3 games..has problems reading defense

Nuss:
Pros…NFL arm, takes chances down the field..several LSU WRs name him first when talking about QBs

Cons: limited tape…makes several bone headed INTs or throws per game..sort of a gun slinger like Brett Farve (could be a pro or con here)

Walker:
Pro: highly ranked QB coming out of high school..live arm..came from a family of football players..dad played for LSU..some rank him ahead of Arch Manning based on potential.

Cons: very limited tape. Did not play Sr. Yr of high school..thus maybe why daddy Howard did not want coach to play him as a freshman.

Sound about right?



Nope. But without getting into anything else, tell who was playing QB for STM in the playoffs in 2021.

I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by AscensionTiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jun 2004
4429 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:52 am to
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very limited tape. Did not play Sr. Yr of high school


Didn't he just miss a few games, not the whole season?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85366 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:56 am to
how is this a dilemma for fans?
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16154 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Overall good summary, but I would also change tape to low play time for Nuss.


Which is on the coaches and just maddening. He should have had at least 100 attempts against P5 competition this year.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22048 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:08 am to
quote:

What was in that blueprint?


Play in close to stop up his running lanes and force him to throw passes over 10 yards. He will not throw that ball most of the time.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6713 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:09 am to
Make him throw it downfield. You’re an idiot if you’re trying to be a smartass, anyone with two eyes can see that Arkansas, A&M, and Georgia did the exact same things defensively against us and it worked brilliantly
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14839 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:12 am to
quote:

I’d say that’s pretty fair. I think it’s a huge concern that Barry Odom seemed to lay out a blueprint to exploit Jayden’s weaknesses and he hasn’t had a good game since



Except Georgia. Where he was moving the ball very effectively. He also wasn’t bad against A&M. This narrative that he’s been bad since the Arkansas game just really doesn’t hold up. Not saying he was completely outstanding just that his performances were not “bad”.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288117 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:12 am to
"Overall good summary"

"that is fair"

"this sounds very right"




LSU fans are so frickin' dumb. I stopped after he said Walker Howard missed his Sr year and this is why his daddy wanted him to RS


this is how easily you idiots are tricked by things you read on the internet
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14839 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:15 am to
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Which is on the coaches and just maddening. He should have had at least 100 attempts against P5 competition this year.


Or maybe he should have performed better in practice and when given the opportunity in games that he was given. You know, where he threw several interceptions and showed his inability to protect the ball.


No but I’m sure he was absolutely the “better QB” and that the staff just chose not to play him. Makes total sense.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 9:16 am
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14839 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Arkansas, A&M, and Georgia did the exact same things defensively against us and it worked brilliantly


Then why was he moving the ball effectively against all of those but Arkansas? Odd.
Posted by STTDB07
Member since May 2020
31 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:19 am to
The good news is that we will have a very good (and well coached) team no matter which one of these guys starts.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Make him throw it downfield. You’re an idiot if you’re trying to be a smartass, anyone with two eyes can see that Arkansas, A&M, and Georgia did the exact same things defensively against us and it worked brilliantly




who the hell would downvote this? man some people are dumb.. hell, i like Daniels but this is spot on.. he cant throw down the field...

I still think you have to give it over to Nuss, the WR's have been upfront and vocal about wanting him... Daniels can be a red zone threat or move to slot..
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Cons: He cannot throw consistently to be down the field threat…if they shut down his running lanes..he is screwed..see last 3 games..has problems reading defense
Stopped reading here because you know throwing is kind of important when discussing QBs. Next year should be a nuss vs Howard battle let the best QB win the job.

JD needs to go pro. His window is closing.
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