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re: MO school district switches to 4 day week schedule due to teacher and funding shortage
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:48 am to StringedInstruments
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:48 am to StringedInstruments
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starting pay for teachers begins at $41,150
If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:51 am to OleVaught14
I agree.
Any able-bodied schmo can drive a forklift at a DC and make more money than this and they don't have the responsibility of teaching the next generation to carry with them.
If you increase that pay, you will see more qualified candidates. I'm sure there's a ceiling where if you go above a certain amount you start attracting the wrong people in the opposite direction, but I can't imagine a school district offering starting pay at $60k wouldn't see positive results.
Any able-bodied schmo can drive a forklift at a DC and make more money than this and they don't have the responsibility of teaching the next generation to carry with them.
If you increase that pay, you will see more qualified candidates. I'm sure there's a ceiling where if you go above a certain amount you start attracting the wrong people in the opposite direction, but I can't imagine a school district offering starting pay at $60k wouldn't see positive results.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:52 am to OleVaught14
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If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
No federal income taxes for public school teachers?
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:57 am to OleVaught14
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If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
I’m a teacher FWIW.
I disagree with this idea that pay will solve the problems in education unless you’re talking about significantly raising teacher pay to numbers that build wealth. The job isn’t worth that much money. Even if it was, would it still attract the talent to be able to instruct students at a high level while also managing the social and emotional damage that many kids bring to the table?
Also, if teacher pay now is so bad that it’s contributing to poor teacher performance in schools, then we should be be able to point to a time when education was adequate and see a correlation with high teacher pay. I bet that doesn’t exist.
The problem is that public schools kowtow to politics (on both sides) that are detrimental to teacher performance and student learning outcomes. No amount of money will solve those problems.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:00 am to OleVaught14
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starting pay for teachers begins at $41,150
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If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
1 - eliminate the unions that take a big portion of education dollars
2 - eliminate the Dept of Ed and let the states take care of their educational decisions.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:19 am to OleVaught14
quote:Agreed, but we also need to make it a more selective field and give them more control of the kids from a discipline standpoint while they are in their care.
If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change
School should also switch to a more year round situation with a shorter summer and longer winter and spring holidays.
frick teaching if you have to put up with kids who are little assholes and you can’t do anything about it.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:04 pm to OleVaught14
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If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
Public school systems have a communist pay scale. Good teachers get paid equal to bad teachers.
All in all public school systems are a disaster.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:01 pm to OleVaught14
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quote:starting pay for teachers begins at $41,150 If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
Normal 40 hr week job working all year in 2080 hours.
Lets say teachers work 75% of that(Not talking coaching and other extra stuff that gets extra pay). That’s 1560 hrs per year.
$41,150/1560 = $26.38/hr
A teacher fresh out of school and doing the bare minimum teaching responsibilities makes $26.38/ hr. That’s not terrible for someone fresh out of school.
Veteran teachers in that district max out $81,713/year. Which works out to $52.38/hr. Is it really that terrible?
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:27 pm to OleVaught14
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starting pay for teachers begins at $41,150
If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
I am fully on board with higher pay ... I think a School teacher should start at 52-55k but I also think there needs to be some more academics involved in academia. The amount of movies field trips events parties "artwork" is just nuts. I'll willing to pay for it but in doing so I also want more teaching
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:29 pm to OleVaught14
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starting pay for teachers begins at $41,150
If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
They only work 8ish months out of the year. And that's just starting pay.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 3:30 pm
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