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The facts are that Jayden Daniels...
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:27 pm
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1. Came from a less talented and under coached dumpster fire at ASU.
2. Learned a new team and offensive system on the fly in the toughest division in the toughest league in college football.
3. Beat out the probable incumbents in Brennan and Nuss.
4. Helped his team win the division and will be playing for the SEC crown.
5. Hasn't taken a redshirt which is a compliment to his abilities and football IQ. He is a true junior.
6. Is respected and feared him. SEC coaches
7. Has similar number to Joseph Burrow and no one has been better since Joe Burrow. Granted Max Johnson was serviceable at best, however he wouldn't have gotten LSU this far.
8. Had decided to go to aTm instead of LSU, they are most likely undefeated and playing in our place this weekend.
9. Is not a WR or any other position, he is and will be a next level QB, like it or not. NFL scouts see him as such.
10. Decides to come back and the offensive play improves and better compliments his abilities and the surrounding cast strengths, he is in the Hiesman discussion next year without question
Hate it or love it, he's not perfect, but he is the best we have and for the most part any team would love to have. And the biased and spoiled LSU fanbase should as well.
1. Came from a less talented and under coached dumpster fire at ASU.
2. Learned a new team and offensive system on the fly in the toughest division in the toughest league in college football.
3. Beat out the probable incumbents in Brennan and Nuss.
4. Helped his team win the division and will be playing for the SEC crown.
5. Hasn't taken a redshirt which is a compliment to his abilities and football IQ. He is a true junior.
6. Is respected and feared him. SEC coaches
7. Has similar number to Joseph Burrow and no one has been better since Joe Burrow. Granted Max Johnson was serviceable at best, however he wouldn't have gotten LSU this far.
8. Had decided to go to aTm instead of LSU, they are most likely undefeated and playing in our place this weekend.
9. Is not a WR or any other position, he is and will be a next level QB, like it or not. NFL scouts see him as such.
10. Decides to come back and the offensive play improves and better compliments his abilities and the surrounding cast strengths, he is in the Hiesman discussion next year without question
Hate it or love it, he's not perfect, but he is the best we have and for the most part any team would love to have. And the biased and spoiled LSU fanbase should as well.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 12:28 pm
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:28 pm to AllenTXTiger
It’s just scary he’s regressed after Florida, Ole Miss and Bama
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:31 pm to lsutigerelizabeth
I don’t know that he’s regressed as much as teams have figured out how to beat him. Most teams have been dropping 7 or 8 in coverage with a spy. He’s not a good enough passing QB right now to beat that defensive alignment.
Which begs the question of why we don’t take what the D gives us and pound the ball. Especially in the A&M game. We tried to get cute too many times when they were giving us 5-6 yards on the ground.
Which begs the question of why we don’t take what the D gives us and pound the ball. Especially in the A&M game. We tried to get cute too many times when they were giving us 5-6 yards on the ground.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:32 pm to lsutigerelizabeth
See # 10. Play calling has to be questioned as well as his play. Valid point though.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:39 pm to AllenTXTiger
You aren’t completely wrong, but you are wrong in #9 about him being a next level QB. Barring a miraculous turnaround this won’t happen. The NFL ain’t looking for QBs who freeze in the pocket and won’t pull the trigger.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:42 pm to lsutigerelizabeth
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It’s just scary he’s regressed after Florida, Ole Miss and Bama
The offense was a disaster against Arkansas, but agree Jayden played poorly. UAB he played fine. A&M he did not play well but was not a complete disaster. Just wish he would trust his receivers downfield and not try to do it all himself at times.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:46 pm to Mulkey Man
He is not a true Jr. This is his fourth year playing college football.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:47 pm to AllenTXTiger
He is not a true junior. He played 3 years at ASU.
Otherwise agreed.
Otherwise agreed.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:55 pm to AllenTXTiger
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:58 pm to AllenTXTiger
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See # 10. Play calling has to be questioned as well as his play. Valid point though.
A while back Kelly said they were modifying the playbook to plays JD was comfortable with. The problem is if you can't open up the playbook with JD opponents know it and gameplan to defend his skill set. If he won't throw deep teams can walk safeties down, load the box and take away his safe throws and run lanes.
He has to trust his WRs to win 50/50 balls. Weigman threw two contested deep throws to Muse Muhamed and he won both vs Sage Ryan. Ryan actually had tight coverage, but a true FR QB trusted his WR to win the ball. I remember video of Brady at practice screaming at the QB to cut the ball loose. Sloan, Denbrock or Kelly need to do the same with JD. He's an incredible runner and can make some really good throws, but if he won't trust himself and/or his WRs we lose our best weapon which is an extremely talented WR group.
Even weak armed Max was hitting WRs in stride for big YAC. Maybe another off season will make a difference for JD. I hope so.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:58 pm to SloaneRanger
SloaneRanger
You aren’t completely wrong, but you are wrong in #9 about him being a next level QB. Barring a miraculous turnaround this won’t happen. The NFL ain’t looking for QBs who freeze in the pocket and won’t pull the trigger.
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Point taken, that's why I think he needs to come back another year to develop that part of his game.
You aren’t completely wrong, but you are wrong in #9 about him being a next level QB. Barring a miraculous turnaround this won’t happen. The NFL ain’t looking for QBs who freeze in the pocket and won’t pull the trigger.
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Point taken, that's why I think he needs to come back another year to develop that part of his game.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:59 pm to AllenTXTiger
His biggest problem, IMHO, is when a play breaks down he trusts his legs more than his arm.
In the PAC-12 that worked well against teams with less talent than the SEC.
In the middle of the season, it seemed he was breaking away from that, but two of his last three games were the old JD. If old JD shows up Saturday, we will get crushed.
In the PAC-12 that worked well against teams with less talent than the SEC.
In the middle of the season, it seemed he was breaking away from that, but two of his last three games were the old JD. If old JD shows up Saturday, we will get crushed.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:01 pm to catfish 62
catfish 62
He is not a true junior. He played 3 years at ASU
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Touche'..., but he has never redshirted either.
He is not a true junior. He played 3 years at ASU
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Touche'..., but he has never redshirted either.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:03 pm to AllenTXTiger
6 7 8 9 & 10 are either highly debatable or downright laughable.
He absolutely WILL NOT be an elite QB in the NFL. He can't read defenses well, struggles mightly to go through his progressions and refuses to push the ball downfield to the point it is maddening.If it wasn't for his running ability, he'd be barely serviceable in the Sunbelt or Southland conferences.
He absolutely WILL NOT be an elite QB in the NFL. He can't read defenses well, struggles mightly to go through his progressions and refuses to push the ball downfield to the point it is maddening.If it wasn't for his running ability, he'd be barely serviceable in the Sunbelt or Southland conferences.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:08 pm to SCREWDAT
SCREWDAT
6 7 8 9 & 10 are either highly debatable or downright laughable.
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Technically anything and everything is debatable... but you're entitled to your opinion.
6 7 8 9 & 10 are either highly debatable or downright laughable.
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Technically anything and everything is debatable... but you're entitled to your opinion.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:28 pm to mtntiger
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His biggest problem, IMHO, is when a play breaks down he trusts his legs more than his arm.
Too bad they can't teach him to keep his eyes downfield when he takes off. That action gets defenders off receivers and many times opens up a big pass play.
But when JD5 tucks to run, he ain't passing. Just running.
He could add an interesting and very valuable trait to his game. If he stays, I hope he picks that up.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:34 pm to talmaniandevil_25
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I don’t know that he’s regressed as much as teams have figured out how to beat him.
I think this is probably what we are seeing, more than anything.
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Which begs the question of why we don’t take what the D gives us and pound the ball. Especially in the A&M game. We tried to get cute too many times when they were giving us 5-6 yards on the ground.
It seemed like we were trying to stay pretty balanced early. Our running game got stronger as the game went on (4.3 ypc and 56% success rate on RB runs in first half vs. 5.8 ypc and 73% success rate in second half) but our ability to commit to the run game also dwindled as the game went on, due to the score and the time remaining.
I think it’s also worth remembering that our RB depth is rough right now with Goodwin out and Williams apparently still hurt.
Emery bounced back really well from his struggles last week, but I think you have to keep those issues in the back of your mind to a point. Are you going to give him 15-20 carries, a week after he had two fumbles on 9 carries?
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:59 pm to AllenTXTiger
I agree with your comments but I will say this about Jayden; the dude has played with tremendous effort and heart. He is kinda limited but hopefully he comes back and improves.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:17 pm to AllenTXTiger
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Hasn't taken a redshirt which is a compliment to his abilities and football IQ. He is a true junior.
He is a true Senior with an extra year due to Covid. He was at ASU in 2019.
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Had decided to go to aTm instead of LSU, they are most likely undefeated and playing in our place this weekend.
Definitely not a fact.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:23 pm to AllenTXTiger
quote:I do not believe this.
he is and will be a next level QB
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