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A constitutional republic, not a democracy

Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:15 am
Posted by FlexDawg
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:15 am
Posted by Joe Dirtbag
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:24 am to
This is such a gay "talking point"

We don't have either. We have rule by money.
Posted by footswitch
New Market
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:29 am to
Saw this off Rob Schneider’s retweet.
Eerily familiar to exactly what’s happening right now.
Posted by G&P
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:40 am to
“The founding fathers did not intend the United States to be a democracy as being espoused by the Democratic Party.“

LINK
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:04 am to
A democracy doesn't have any documents protecting the public from the majority.
Posted by CoachDon
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:15 am to
Posted by MOS0311
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:18 am to
"The best argument against democracy is a five minute convo with the average voter"...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:22 am to
"Democracy" is a term that means more than "Direct democracy" (or mob rule)
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:17 am to
I recall in high school my very serious male history teacher/coach asked the class the form of government we have. I confidently raised my hand and said a democracy. He almost lost his shite.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:24 am to
It's long past the time that we should look into why we hear the term from the Left so much nowadays.

Has there ever been a time when the "term" was used as much or more than one hears it being invoked by the Left presently?

Actually there was: leading up to and after the Bolsheviks' successful bloody Revolution of 1917 - at least according to the writings of the ideology's original Founders.

Probably because they, like the liberals of today, believed they had the numbers with the emerging proletariat that they depended upon so much and had such faith in.

Of course, that blind faith blew up in their faces when the proletariat began to look for other options when they realized that they were expected to offer themselves up as cannon fodder for the Revolution - and then afterwards when their leaders would attempt to spread it to other countries.

Here's how one of the "original leaders" - the most important one - viewed democracy and how he saw it as just a transitional stage necessary for the eventual success of communism:

Democracy is of great importance to the working class in its struggle for emancipation from the capitalists.

But democracy is by no means a boundary that must not be overstepped; it is only one of the stages on the road from feudalism to capitalism and from capitalism to Communism.

Democracy means equality.

The great significance of the proletariat's struggle for equality and the significance of equality as a slogan will be clear if we correctly interpret it as meaning the abolition of classes.

But democracy means only formal equality.

And as soon as equality is obtained for all members of society in relation to the ownership of the means of production, that is, equality of labor and equality of wages, humanity will inevitably be confronted with the question of going beyond formal equality to real equality, i.e., to applying the rule, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

Democracy is a form of state, one of its varieties.

Consequently, it, like every state, on the one hand represents the organized, systematic application of force against persons; but on the other hand it signifies the formal recognition of the equality of all citizens, the equal right of all to determine the structure and administration of the state.

This, in turn, is connected with the fact that, at a certain stage in the development of democracy, it first rallies the proletariat as the revolutionary class against capitalism, and enables it to crush, smash to atoms, wipe off the face of the earth the bourgeois, even the republican bourgeois, state machine, the standing army, the police and bureaucracy, and to substitute for them a more democratic state machine, but a state machine nevertheless, in the shape of the armed masses of workers who are being transformed into a universal people's militia.

Here "quantity is transformed into quality": such a degree of democracy implies overstepping the boundaries of bourgeois society, the beginning of the Socialist reconstruction.


From Lenin's Workers' Control of the State and the Economy

So much of what we see and hear going on today is buried in those few paragraphs.

BTW, who is it we know that it has been brought to our attention regards Lenin as his mentor and role model?

Oh, that's right the one who some believe naively is going to save us all from the wickedness and snares of the globalists.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:04 pm to
Who is the speaker in the OP?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:54 pm to
Now you see who is pushing for a dictatorship - every moron who wishes to do away with the electoral college.
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
8604 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 1:40 pm to
I'd say we're an oligarchical republic masquerading as a constitutional one at this point.

Money=speech, the end of our republic.
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