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re: Alex Stein confronts armed antifa guarding drag queen story time in Denton, TX
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:00 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:00 pm to AggieHank86
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The very next sentence of the same post made it very clear that I was talking about news stories.
bullshite.
Are you saying you made a definitive statement like this.. Notice the capitalized NOT.
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Ooga, those are NOT the costumes that one sees at storytime
Based on a couple of biased news stories? Damn hack
You don't know. You're fricking guessing. Your entire premise is based on a couple of goddamned news stories?
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:03 pm to BugAC
quote:we have discussed that issue at length in multiple threads. I had not realized that we needed to address it yet again.
Again if it really was all about the children then why the need to be in drag.quote:
Another good question aggiehank needs to answer.
Drag performers are, above all else, performers. The costume is part of the act And persona.
Ooga hates this analogy, but one would not expect a clown to show up and tie balloon animals without his makeup and costume. I see no reason to expect differently from a drag performer.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:04 pm to AggieHank86
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Ooga hates this analogy,
Hank hates truth.
quote:
Ooga, those are NOT the costumes that one sees at storytime
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:05 pm to AggieHank86
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He has supported drag shows for children Again, no I have not.
It is a factually accurate statement that you support a drag queen getting fully dressed in costume and performing for children in the reading of books that is a performance for children while dressed as a drag queen so yes that is what you support
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:07 pm to BugAC
quote:You are an inpatient little prima donna, aren’t you?
Well hank? what is the difference between a drag story hour that allows children, and a drag brunch that allows children?
quote:In most states, the rules regarding admission to a venue which sells alcohol are very dependent upon a number of factors, not least of which is the percentage of sales which come from alcohol versus food.
Children are allowed in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol with the accompaniment of their parents/adult. Why would children be excluded from drag/burlesque shows if just for the alcohol, like you said?
The drag shows that I have attended have not taken place in venues which included a kitchen.
I am not aware of any law in Texas, at least, which says that children cannot attend the drag show. They would seem to be excluded based upon the foregoing statutes and rules regarding alcohol sales.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:07 pm to AggieHank86
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Drag performers are, above all else, performers. The costume is part of the act And persona.
Please give a link to this. I can tell you that from the tranny guy i know, drag is not a persona at all.
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Ooga hates this analogy, but one would not expect a clown to show up and tie balloon animals without his makeup and costume. I see no reason to expect differently from a drag performer.
So this "outfit"...why is it so demonic and sexual in nature?
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:whatever. Here is the full paragraph
I made reference to new stories.quote:
Liar
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those are NOT the costumes that one sees at storytime. I have seen exactly ONE story of a drag performer wearing something like that to a storytime, and that performer was banned by the sponsor. See Sasha Soto
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:11 pm to AggieHank86
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who decides these norms?
the people, acting through their elected representatives and subject to the constraints of their constitution.
your argument uses circular logic
you have said multiple times that the children's parents should decide whether or not to take their child to the drag show and that the State should have no say so. then you made a comment about which costumes the queens wore as if there should be a standard by which they should dress. now you're saying "the people, acting through their elected representatives" (society) should determine the norms. then when they decide to not allow the drag queens perform in the public library, you'll say it's against the constitution. and earlier you insinuated that if 1 group is allowed in the public conference room then all groups should be allowed. just admit that you think it all should be determined by aggiehank & that you're not really concerned about logic.
I can see why you're a message board attorney & must have failed in a real court of law
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:13 pm to AggieHank86
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In most states, the rules regarding admission to a venue which sells alcohol are very dependent upon a number of factors, not least of which is the percentage of sales which come from alcohol versus food.
That's pretty short sided to make this assumption and use it as fact as to why people under 21 are not allowed in drag/burlesque shows. Do you have some sort of statistic to back that up?
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The drag shows that I have attended have not taken place in venues which included a kitchen.
Being a lawyer, you should know the premises does not require a kitchen for a child to enter. As long as the child is with a legal guardian, that child can enter a bar IN TEXAS, unless said bar specifically enforces an age limit to the bar.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:14 pm to minister of truth
I hope this thread edges out the pinned election thread. 
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:15 pm to BugAC
quote:the brunches seem to be held at restaurants (hence the name) so that the alcohol sale restrictions do not apply.
If it is sexualized, then why are they allowing children?
quote:no. This is definitely not something to which I would take my own children, but (for the umpteenth time) it is not something I would preclude other parents from doing.
Is this an instance you would want "authoritarian" measure being used against parents that bring their children to sexualized drag shows?
quote:Performers. See above post.
why the need to dress up in drag? What is the purpose of dressing in drag in order to read to children?
quote:Are you aware that transgenders and drag performers are an almost completely non-overlapping sample set?
Third, are you aware of the tranny/drag community outside of what you read on the internet?
This post was edited on 11/21/22 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:19 pm to AggieHank86
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those are NOT the costumes that one sees at storytime. I have seen exactly ONE story of a drag performer wearing something like that to a storytime,
What a crock of stupidity..
Ole Hank supports tranny story time, Says that the costumes are NOT provocative and gets his information from random media.
If you were a thinking man, definitive statements would NEVER be made using a few random news stories for your evidence.
Lawyer.. lol.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:20 pm to BugAC
The top costume is certainly weird, but no more “demonic” than any number of Disney characters from your youth or mine. Maleficent jumps to mind, along with the witch from the Little Mermaid.
The fat guy with the beard is just funny looking.
The third picture is the one individual that I indicated was problematic (Sasha Soto), who had also been banished by the sponsor.
The fourth image does not appear to be from a story hour.
The fat guy with the beard is just funny looking.
The third picture is the one individual that I indicated was problematic (Sasha Soto), who had also been banished by the sponsor.
The fourth image does not appear to be from a story hour.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:20 pm to AggieHank86
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but (for the umpteenth time) it is not something I would preclude other parents from doing.
There it is. So you are differentiating drag story hour and drag brunch, because one is more highly sexually charged than the other. However, regardless of how sexually inappropriate the content may be, there is no cause for legal ramifications if a child is subjected to sexual themes. That being the case, where are the limits? Because this is the only single arcing theme to your posts, is that there is nothing off limits, sexually, to children, that should cause legal recourse. Ergo, child sexual grooming is of no consequence to you, as long as the parent is present.
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:21 pm to BugAC
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That's pretty short sided to make this assumption
this is the same idiot who made definitive statements and assumptions based on a few media articles
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:21 pm to AggieHank86
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The top costume is certainly weird, but no more “demonic” than any number of Disney characters from your youth or mine.
Yeah, going to Disney isn’t helping your argument any.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:23 pm to AggieHank86
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Ooga, those are NOT the costumes that one sees at storytime
How in the frick do you know this if you don't attend?
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:23 pm to AggieHank86
getting back to the nudists comment you made earlier also
should the nudists also be allowed to have reading time for the children in the public library? isn't that their "costume"? certainly you would take your children and let them sit on the storyteller's lap since you wouldn't want to teach them "bigotry and prejudice"!
fact is society has & needs norms for children whether you like them or not. just because your perversion is not out for public consumption by children, doesn't mean your freedom has been unduly restricted
should the nudists also be allowed to have reading time for the children in the public library? isn't that their "costume"? certainly you would take your children and let them sit on the storyteller's lap since you wouldn't want to teach them "bigotry and prejudice"!
fact is society has & needs norms for children whether you like them or not. just because your perversion is not out for public consumption by children, doesn't mean your freedom has been unduly restricted
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:24 pm to BugAC
quote:Adult attendance at drag performances in a bar is not really the subject of this thread, and I did not research it in any great detail. You folks are hurling questions at me so fast that I am answering everything off the top of my head. That answer in particular was based upon my limited exposure to the Texas alcoholic beverage commission, though I have certainly never worked on the licensing of a drag venue.
In most states, the rules regarding admission to a venue which sells alcohol are very dependent upon a number of factors, not least of which is the percentage of sales which come from alcohol versus food.quote:
That's pretty short sided to make this assumption and use it as fact as to why people under 21 are not allowed in drag/burlesque shows. Do you have some sort of statistic to back that up?
Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:24 pm to AggieHank86
It’s time for you to Kenny Rodgers this one.
Rogers, for my Yankee friend.
Rogers, for my Yankee friend.
This post was edited on 11/21/22 at 2:31 pm
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