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A trillion dollar question. Is DeSantis a Warhawk?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:09 am
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:09 am
Folks, I just don't have full trust or understanding of his foreign policy agenda. Biggest damage done to our country financially, culturally, as well as to Europe was Iraq Invasion and ME destabilization. So it started with Bush Sr, and ended with Bush Jr.
The biggest downside of that unpopular war was not just trillions of national debt and thousands of lives lost and maimed, but it got 0bama elected who then installed bunch of leftists judges and gave a-ok to BLM and ANTIFA and other far left groups to spawn and riot at will. He dumped fire on culture/race war. His top hit being "Trayvon Martin could look like my son". Well,Berry, Trayvon Martin could also look like my son if I knocked up a black girl, but what's the point of saying that?
All that mess happened because Bushes and Cheney wanted to get fat off the war and duped voters didn't think false war like that could have such a devastating long-term consequences for our nation.
Fact is, I don't know if DeSantis will be another Warhawk, but we as a country can't take a chance. I trust a traditional politician on foreign policy as far as I can throw them. Trump has proven and kept his promise of not starting new wars. That alone gives me confidence to vote for Trump over Ron.
But before he runs and you gullibly support him, he needs to lay out his foreign policy vision and who his advisors and commanders would be.
The biggest downside of that unpopular war was not just trillions of national debt and thousands of lives lost and maimed, but it got 0bama elected who then installed bunch of leftists judges and gave a-ok to BLM and ANTIFA and other far left groups to spawn and riot at will. He dumped fire on culture/race war. His top hit being "Trayvon Martin could look like my son". Well,Berry, Trayvon Martin could also look like my son if I knocked up a black girl, but what's the point of saying that?
All that mess happened because Bushes and Cheney wanted to get fat off the war and duped voters didn't think false war like that could have such a devastating long-term consequences for our nation.
Fact is, I don't know if DeSantis will be another Warhawk, but we as a country can't take a chance. I trust a traditional politician on foreign policy as far as I can throw them. Trump has proven and kept his promise of not starting new wars. That alone gives me confidence to vote for Trump over Ron.
But before he runs and you gullibly support him, he needs to lay out his foreign policy vision and who his advisors and commanders would be.
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:12 am to DrAnonymous
I will vote for whoever has an R by their name whether I like it or not. As far as the primaries are concerned, I let the middle of the road pussies argue about that.
Downvote if you are a middle of the road pussy.
Downvote if you are a middle of the road pussy.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 10:32 am
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:12 am to DrAnonymous
Michael Tracey and/or Glenn Greenwald have looked into that a little bit and I think his House record suggests warhawk. I've always thought that's the one area he would break away from Trump policy the most if elected.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:15 am to DrAnonymous
I think this is the big question. How do you judge?
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:17 am to DrAnonymous
This is truly an unknown. Governors don't start wars, so we will have to wait and see if he pushes Ukrainian war forever or not. If he is lucky Russia will negotiate something before he announces. I don't see him announcing for 6 months anyway. He would be a fool to take a stand before he announces.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:18 am to Bunk Moreland
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Michael Tracey and/or Glenn Greenwald have looked into that a little bit and I think his House record suggests warhawk. I've always thought that's the one area he would break away from Trump policy the most if elected.
That's no bueno.
quote:
I think this is the big question. How do you judge?
He was in the House, wasn't he? We can look back at his voting history and statements on conflicts.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 10:20 am
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:21 am to squid_hunt
quote:research his positions and statements on the American INVASIONS OF UKRAINE (AND NOW Poland)...
I think this is the big question. How do you judge?
and creating such treachery by financing Nazis and khazarians and by funding these creepy snakes.
He was military, though JAG I believe but there is likely a record
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 10:23 am
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:22 am to DrAnonymous
Guess what!
If the U.S. is allowed to use our countries oil and gas resources, we can crush Russia's energy hold on Europe, making them dependent on everyone else for income.
Bottomline, they'll have to crawl back to their borders, and to what they were before...a toothless bear!
If the U.S. is allowed to use our countries oil and gas resources, we can crush Russia's energy hold on Europe, making them dependent on everyone else for income.
Bottomline, they'll have to crawl back to their borders, and to what they were before...a toothless bear!
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:24 am to coachcrisp
quote:Did the Russians ever call you a white supremacist terrorist?
Guess what!
If the U.S. is allowed to use our countries oil and gas resources, we can crush Russia's energy hold on Europe, making them dependent on everyone else for income.
Bottomline, they'll have to crawl back to their borders, and to what they were before...a toothless bear!
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:25 am to DrAnonymous
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ME destabilization.
When exactly was it "stable"
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:25 am to DrAnonymous
Ron's national or geo-political policy has not been vetted, Here is an idea about how he voted,
They don't want anyone looking into this. They wanted to play the usual shell game and make it appear as if Ron was MAGA. How can MAGA vote for TPP?
For all we know he is a neocon.
As always, they didn't want us finding out until he was at a global warming, we are going to war in the ME podium speech like the others.
They don't want anyone looking into this. They wanted to play the usual shell game and make it appear as if Ron was MAGA. How can MAGA vote for TPP?
For all we know he is a neocon.
As always, they didn't want us finding out until he was at a global warming, we are going to war in the ME podium speech like the others.Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:26 am to JJJimmyJimJames
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Did the Russians ever call you a white supremacist terrorist?
Wtf?....please expound on you post.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:26 am to DrAnonymous
I don't know his record, but I know my tune has changed 100%. I stupidly was pro war after 911. Still believed the CIA was believable. What a fool I was. I voted for W like a fool. That middle east fiasco changed many people.
I remember being pissed an Ron Paul during a debate because he was so anti-war. Ron Paul is a hero and I'm ashamed of how stupid I was. Paul stood up when it is was unpopular and he didn't care what voters thought. Need more men like him.
I remember being pissed an Ron Paul during a debate because he was so anti-war. Ron Paul is a hero and I'm ashamed of how stupid I was. Paul stood up when it is was unpopular and he didn't care what voters thought. Need more men like him.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:26 am to DrAnonymous
quote:
Is DeSantis a Warhawk?
Most probably, he's a zionist for sure.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:30 am to DrAnonymous
All you have to do is look at the people who are currently pushing him and wait to see who else pushes him.
Look at the types of donors behind him.
It isn’t hard to figure out what’s going on. Some people are just in denial because they only choose to see that he’s done what a governor is supposed to do for his state.
Look at the types of donors behind him.
It isn’t hard to figure out what’s going on. Some people are just in denial because they only choose to see that he’s done what a governor is supposed to do for his state.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:31 am to DrAnonymous
Apologies for what may seem like a hijack attempt, but I’m working and can’t follow up. Listening to Beck talk about the new ‘anti-God’ secular ideology of morality. It’s called “Effective Altruism “. Someone here needs to research and post it as this will be the philosophical basis for the coming ideological war. Sorry for this. Carry on.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:32 am to Snipe
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When exactly was it "stable"
When there wasn't ISIS caliphate running amock and there wasn't a huge influx of arabic migrants to Europe and US.
Saddam ran a tight ship. So did Gaddafi. They almost took down Assad.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 10:33 am
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:32 am to Ole Ag
quote:A smart man will bankrupt his adversary if he can, before trying to kick his arse....and we can.
I don't know his record, but I know my tune has changed 100%. I stupidly was pro war after 911. Still believed the CIA was believable. What a fool I was. I voted for W like a fool. That middle east fiasco changed many people.
I remember being pissed an Ron Paul during a debate because he was so anti-war. Ron Paul is a hero and I'm ashamed of how stupid I was. Paul stood up when it is was unpopular and he didn't care what voters thought. Need more men like him.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:35 am to Ole Ag
quote:
I don't know his record, but I know my tune has changed 100%. I stupidly was pro war after 911. Still believed the CIA was believable. What a fool I was. I voted for W like a fool. That middle east fiasco changed many people.
I remember being pissed an Ron Paul during a debate because he was so anti-war. Ron Paul is a hero and I'm ashamed of how stupid I was. Paul stood up when it is was unpopular and he didn't care what voters thought. Need more men like him.
Ron Paul and Rand Paul endorsement has my vote at the end. I'm pretty sure Trump will get that endorsement.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:38 am to coachcrisp
The president of the USA and others in his political party has called you; labeled Americans; white supremacists and terrorists.
This is the same man who
has used Ukraine for money laundering and
who is a part of the government that fomented a coup in Ukraine that was bloody resulting in the deaths of Ukrainians and Russians within Ukraine since at least 2011 and likely much longer
who is a part of the government that built bioweapons labs in Ukraine
and who is currently financing the wars of his puppets, the Ukrainians and Khazarians against other countries in the region
who supports the totalitarians and Nazis in the Ukraine
who supports violence, treachery, and death in general; AND
who supports the CIA's forever war problem currently in Ukraine, and soon to follow - other locations
This is the same man who
has used Ukraine for money laundering and
who is a part of the government that fomented a coup in Ukraine that was bloody resulting in the deaths of Ukrainians and Russians within Ukraine since at least 2011 and likely much longer
who is a part of the government that built bioweapons labs in Ukraine
and who is currently financing the wars of his puppets, the Ukrainians and Khazarians against other countries in the region
who supports the totalitarians and Nazis in the Ukraine
who supports violence, treachery, and death in general; AND
who supports the CIA's forever war problem currently in Ukraine, and soon to follow - other locations
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 10:42 am
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