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Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III and Army General Mark A. Milley, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Hold a Press Briefing Following Ukrainian Defense Contact Group Meeting


They were so successful Ukrainians S-300 retired itself to Poland.
There's a reason US doesn't give Ukraine long-range missiles. Because it's not that "unlikely" as we think.

Even the possibility of nuclear war was unfathomable 2 years ago. Now it's a normal daily topic on the news.

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Ok Boomer


Wrong, groomer.

I'm 30. And I don't want next 40-60 years being spent hunting wilder beasts, and leftists in post apocalyptic safari, as much fun as it may sound.

Ukriane can fck off.
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There was no widespread all out war in Ukraine until February when Russia attacked southward towards Kiev, east from ghe Donbas and north into Kherson Oblast.

Ukraine is defending itself from a complete Russian takeover and recent successes have hurt Russia and opened the door for Ukraine to get much of their country back.

If you can’t understand why Ukraine defended themselves from Russian takeover what can I say.




"Complete Russian takeover" is a myth. They couldn't even get rid of saboteurs in Kherson. It's pretty clear Russia doesn't have the manpower nor allies in West Ukraine or even Kharkov(which borders Russia) to control that territory.

So the fear mongering of "complete Russian takeover" is just that.

The full on war with no negotiations is going to set Ukraine back into Iraq post 2003 territory. It's already had quarter of its population flee, and the rest of the population is suffering from anxiety, cold, and conscription raids. College kids in Kiev are up for draft because Russia mobilized.

And it doesn't seem like the spiral of aggression is winding down. It's expanding. This missiles to Poland by Ukraine was a damn jarring wake up call.

Ukraine isn't worth WW3. It's just not. It's poor Eastern European country with a lot of internal issues that plagued them since before the communist collapse.
RON PAUL: Did Ukraine Try To Lie Us Into WW3?

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: not the first time Ukrainian nationalist bums tried it. Recall "no fly zone" requests.
When everyone was lauding on Pompeo for being MAGA"patriot", all I saw was an establishment swamp rat.

Few people who spend as much time in Washington don't become swamp themselves. He's as much of an establishment stooge as there ever was.

WIKI:

In 2013, Pompeo supported the surveillance programs of the National Security Agency, referring to the agency's efforts as "good and important work".[169] In 2016 Pompeo stated, "Congress should pass a law re-establishing collection of all metadata, and combining it with publicly available financial and lifestyle information into a comprehensive, searchable database. Legal and bureaucratic impediments to surveillance should be removed. That includes Presidential Policy Directive-28, which bestows privacy rights on foreigners and imposes burdensome requirements to justify data collection."[170] In March 2017, WikiLeaks began publishing a series of documents known as Vault 7, detailing the CIA's electronic surveillance and cyber warfare activities and capabilities. In an April 2017 speech addressing the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Pompeo called WikiLeaks "a non-state hostile intelligence service" and described Assange as a "narcissist" and "a fraud—a coward hiding behind a screen".[171][172]
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So, you have to have the right kind of Nazis?




0 to potato in 2 seconds.
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So they should just accept defeat, take help from no one, and allow their sovereignty to be questioned? I disagree.


If by defeat you mean giving away two Republics in the east and Crimea to Russia, then yes.

In return, they get to preserve what's left of their electrical grid and not turn into Syria 2.0.

I don't understand Ukrainain obsession with their Eastern front which has been broiled in Civil War for 9 years. Oil/gas rich land? Not that average Ukrainian would benefit much from it.
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Lol it wasn't about that. It was a combination of pre-WWI ethnonationalism combined with traditional German conservatives intense distrust of the SPD and democracy. Several Nazi ideas predate the Nazis, from the blood and soil rhetoric to Lebensraum, which undermines the notion they were responding to Versailles directly. Of course, you give the German's post-war economic plan the benefit of the doubt so it leads to one conclusion, but you should think about the events of 1922 and 23 a bit more carefully, lol.


How do you think Nazi Party got so popular? Europe put an economic yoke on Germany. People thought Germany carrying economic burden all by itself was unjust, so they looked for scapegoats and nationalism gave way to fascism which promised to right the wrongs of 1st World War. It's no coincidence Hitler and many Nazi leaders were WW1 vets.
Adding to that Ukrainian Nazis perceive Russia as too "diverse", with lots of minorities in Russian military. You have asians, Caucasian(from Caucuses like Chechnya Dagestan), and slavs in Russian forces. However EU will most definitely diversify Ukraine given a chance. Same thing that happened to France, Germany, Sweden, England.

Except Ukraine won't have the strong economy to support migrants. Poland tried to buck EU migratory agenda, but it's just on a temporary pause.
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They can't even decide if they're sad that Ukraine doesn't have Nazis or upset that they do have Nazis.


Ukraine has Nazi-wannbes who are autistic in their ideology. They don't seem to understand the Nazi-ism was about breaking away from the alleged economic slavery Germany was put after WW2 by European allies. They wanted to create another Roman empire for 1000 years.

Ukrainians are just US and NATO puppets who have moronic confused Nazi wannabes dying for the cause of Ukrainian "nationalism". But they also want to be part of EU and be told what to do.

So it's $0.02.
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his is an interesting way to salute your country:




Ukraine would be extremely based if it actually was filled with Nazis. Too bad it's not.
his is an interesting way to salute your country:




Ukraine would be extremely based if it actually was filled with Nazis. Too bad it's not. [/quote]

Ukrainians are puppets, but they have a substantial share of Nazi sympathizers, HOWEVER their Nazi worship is based around hating Russia, not really being free or independent from globalist control. They want to be assimiliated and diversified. That's not Nazi, not what WW2 Germany was about.

What's happening to Ukraine now isn't making them "free" nor "independent". They are entirely dependent on US, EU and NATO with many strings attached. They don't have any degree of sovereignty at the moment. They also have no electricity or running water in many parts of the country and frankly facing a multi-year war.
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Take a look at the video he posted - the still represents CNN, but the video doesn't. Also, look at the other videos on the YouTube site - it's all links to RT and other Russian prop & disinfo pieces, pushing the false-flag Kramatorsk train-bombing, and "Zelensky and his drug addiction problem".

We had a fellow called "dr90210" on this thread back in April whose M.O. was similar to this fellow, starting just a few days after registration and only lasting a short time.


Who/what? I see 4-5 people slinging insults to two other guys on here, but you can't possibly be talking to me.

Video is CNN recording. No grand conspiracy. This was a thread in Political Lalks sub, mr. Tinfoil. I didn't post it, just saw it and found it comical.

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YOu have zero idea of what average is, being blow average as you are.

FTR, there is zero reason that both cannot be done at the same time. Spending on national security by backing Ukraine is actually cheap as hell. It takes nothing away from any border fixes.


Then where' the border wall funding?
Clearly, fat cats can only pump money into MIC without giving two fcks about border. People care about border security, but little to nothing is done to address the issue.

When your wife, sister, mother, loved one is killed by illegal, don't ask for prayers and pity.
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What’s Putin have on them ?
Russian cucks


I'll tell you what Zelensky has on Brandon and his son.

Burisma payouts, boi. And that's a cold hard fact you can't dance around.
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So they purposely struck Poland?




Hopefully not, because that implies false flag motives.
But they have purposely blamed Russia on their fck up, which isn't very different in end goal. They're trying to instigate WW3.

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Well this is the fault of Russia. If they didn’t decide to invade Ukraine, NATO countries bordering Ukraine wouldn’t have to worry about these kinds of things.


If NATO didn't arm Ukraine to the teeth, Russia wouldn't have to lob missiles to Lviv. Also, if Ukraine didn't have civil war for 8 years and CIA coup in 2014, it altogether could have been avoided. Peaceful divorce Eastern and Western Ukraine which never really got along.
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Sounds like a non-NATO nation attacked a NATO nation. When do we attack Ukraine




Concerning part is that they instantly blamed Russia on it, and Zelensky is still doubling down and blaming Russia even when intel came out saying it was their air defense.

So it's a false flag effort to start WW3 by Ukraine or it's an effort to cover their arse of making a blunder by blaming Russia an instigate NATO involvement. Either way, Ukraine looks like a turd.

They asked for no-fly zone back in February for NATO to get involved.
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My unsolicited take on Wildcat1996



He’s a dumbass.


:rotflmao:

I 2nd that take.
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Trump Good, DeSantis Bad!

Whoever your main is, DeSantis has broken you.


I live in FL and voted for DeSantis. But I don't want him running against Trump or necessarily being a President.

Governors can't start wars. That's where he should be until we know his foreign policy agenda and his backers.

Getting all triggered and coming at me you sound like a leftist.