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I guess Derrick Davis and Sage Ryan just aren’t who we thought they would be

Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:17 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
7953 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:17 pm
I think everyone thought they would be our starting safeties sooner than later unless Davis made the move to OLB because of his size but neither guy has seen the field much or played well when they have. Wouldn’t be shocked if Davis transferred back closer to home up north.
This post was edited on 10/30/22 at 12:17 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46307 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:18 pm to
It's not an exact science, for sure

Just get better
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11341 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:18 pm to
They could just take longer to get ready. Neither of them transferred when they easily could have, so I won’t shite on them
Posted by LSDBU
Member since Aug 2019
224 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:19 pm to
Sage Ryan?
Posted by ccarrone0313
Member since Jul 2021
1682 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:20 pm to
Sage Ryan 1) shouldn’t have been a 5 star 2) plays a ton in the slot 3) had an injury all last year 4) is getting better with each rep in my opinion. He’s strong against the run.

Davis should play Lb. Doesn’t move well enough at his size to play safety. Also I don’t think anyone expected Davis to be a starter this year. It was always going to be some combination of Brooks, Ward, Burns, and Foucha
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23201 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:22 pm to
I trust that this coaching staff is putting the best players on the field.

Transfer portal available for those who can't compete at this level.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14254 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Sage Ryan 1) shouldn’t have been a 5 star 2) plays a ton in the slot 3) had an injury all last year 4) is getting better with each rep in my opinion. He’s strong against the run.


Said it all here. Kid just needs some time. He's flashed a few times, and I think a full year healthy and practicing will see good return on investment.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13061 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:38 pm to
Help me understand Ryan.
He's not undersized. When first recruited, he was advertised at 4.5 forty type speed.
Does he not have the physical tools we thought?
Is he having problems figuring out his assignments?
What are the issues?
I am not dumping on the young man, but I do not understand why he is falling so short of expectations, even taking into account his injury issues.
Put differently, I can see he was not a five star, but what did we get wrong about him?
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:41 pm to
His problem: Lost in coverage. Doesn't know his assignments or just lacks instincts. I don't know. He has been lost since he has been here. When he's on the field if I was an offense I'd target him every time in coverage.

LSU is recruiting a ton of S in the upcoming recruiting class and next year. That should tell right there how confident they feel in the depth at S. So yeah, don't be surprised if you get more transfers there.
This post was edited on 10/30/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
12915 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:44 pm to
I remember another 5 star safety we had that took a few years to become a starter. Everything finally clicked for him and he ended up being a pretty solid player for us in his junior and senior seasons. So if it can happen for JaCoby Stevens, then it could possibly happen for these two as well.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288318 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Help me understand


Not every player is awesome immediately
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33810 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:45 pm to
He just shouldn't have been a 5 star.

Sage ryan is always lost on where he should be.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1696 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:11 pm to
Ryan is smaller than his listed size. When he moved on to campus there was a few pictures of him standing next to Langlois and he looked about 2 inches shorter and 20 LBS lighter. His testing numbers were verified numbers, and they were really good but he doesn’t seem to play to that speed. His HS used him all over the field including featuring him in their offense. He’s probably still adjusting.

Davis was also featured at RB and I wonder if he isn’t better off playing that side of the ball. He’s outgrowing S before he even gets the chance to develop into a player at the position. Moving to Lb will probably be difficult.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10827 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

He's not undersized

He’s not? He looks tiny out there.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
20513 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:39 pm to
Be patient as they continue to work hard and get better


Hendon Hooker didn't become a great player until he was 24 years old

Joe Burrow also had a slow start.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4444 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Not every player is awesome immediately


Some are never awesome. Some never contribute at all. You sign 25 and 1/4 you might not ever hear from, even on special teams.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37322 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Not every player is awesome immediately

Exactly. Anyone remember Debo Jones? Stud LBer and he didn’t even sniff the field til junior year and blew up as a senior. Not every 17 year old high schooler is SEC ready, regardless of talent and potential
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288318 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Ryan is smaller than his listed size.


5’11” 193 ? Huh. He looks every bit of that.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27772 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:59 pm to
Bootleggers personnel was adamant Langlois was the better player than Sage

On3 actually had Langlois near a top 100 recruit and ranked higher than Sage

Many felt Derrick Davis was a better RB prospect than safety. Corey Raymond wanted Gilbert over Davis but O made that call.
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3361 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 2:26 pm to
I said the same thing about Sage. I was like this guy wasn’t worth all of that signing day drama he stirred up but as a late the coaching staff has put him out there in the slot and he’s gaining more and more confidence.
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