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It is physically impossible for all automobiles to be powered by lithium ion batteries
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:46 pm
It has been known since at least the early 1990s that there are not sufficient proven lithium reserves on THE GLOBE to satisfy global demand for automobiles (not even mentioning other forms of fossil fuel transportation) ONE TIME (i.e. you couldn’t even give every person who needs a car an electric car powered by lithium ion battery ONCE before there simply is no more lithium left ON EARTH - but of course most people need multiple cars over the course of a lifetime of driving).
It is simply physically IMPOSSIBLE, without an entirely new form of battery technology which doesn't currently exist, to make the global fleet of automobiles electric. The forces advocating for electric vehicles/against gas powered vehicles fall into two camps - 1. Too stupid to know this FACT, or 2. People who know that it is impossible but who expect all but the most wealthy people on earth to accept a massive, unprecedented decline in their standard of living to reduce global CO2 emissions.
It is simply physically IMPOSSIBLE, without an entirely new form of battery technology which doesn't currently exist, to make the global fleet of automobiles electric. The forces advocating for electric vehicles/against gas powered vehicles fall into two camps - 1. Too stupid to know this FACT, or 2. People who know that it is impossible but who expect all but the most wealthy people on earth to accept a massive, unprecedented decline in their standard of living to reduce global CO2 emissions.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:47 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
Profound knowledge on this Sunday the 16th of October, year 2022. Thank you for your service to the OT.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:48 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
The joke will be on us.
They are not planning on everyone owning a car.
You’ll own nothing and be happy.
They are not planning on everyone owning a car.
You’ll own nothing and be happy.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:48 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
don't bring logic or facts into a conversations with Dems/Libs. The best decisions are all made with feelings
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:48 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
Yup, impossible to innovate something new ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:01 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
You’re assuming they plan to have current levels of people and cars on the planet.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:02 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
Thank you for not yelling at us.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:02 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
Sounds like you're questioning lord biden and our democrat overlords. Expect a $2500 fine from Paypal soon for wrong think.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:04 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
quote:
simply physically IMPOSSIBLE, without an entirely new form of battery technology which doesn't currently exist, to make the global fleet of automobiles electric.
Almost as if there should be billions of dollars in research going into this industry....
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:15 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
quote:
It is physically impossible
Doesn't mean what you think it does.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:22 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
You do know that billions of dollars are being invested into battery tech...please tell me you do...
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:28 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
Is Lithium and battery power the new ‘global warming’ trigger for folks on the right? Why does it always come down to "us vs them" in every conversation? Not everything has to be binary in this world.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:09 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
Just wait until they start trying to replace diesel tractor trailers with batteries......
Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:14 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
I never plan on owning an EV so one of y'all can have my lithium
Posted on 10/16/22 at 5:16 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
quote:Dinosaur alert.
BrianKellyRespecter
Posted on 10/16/22 at 5:21 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
quote:
It is simply physically IMPOSSIBLE, without an entirely new form of battery technology which doesn't currently exist,
You don’t know what in the frick you’re talking about
Posted on 10/16/22 at 5:30 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
Ever heard of gallium nitrate?
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:10 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
If you have to ask…..
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:13 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
So much misinformation and lies.
First, it takes maybe 100 kg of lithium (but probably less) for one EV battery. I believe we know of at least 20 million metric tons of reserves, which is enough for more than 200 million vehicles. And we know of 100 million more tons of resources, which is enough for a billion EVs. Also the oceans contain several hundred to thousands of times more lithium than we could ever need, should the need and tech arise.
But we will never need that much because lithium in an EV battery doesn't get used up, it is infinitely recyclable. The lithium in your first EV will be recycled and used to build one for the next generation.
Also it is doubtful that lithium is the pinnacle of battery tech. We've only been developing it for a few decades, and given that it will take many more decades for EV adoption to come close to 100%, and that there are multiple other techs and chemistries in development, it's highly unlikely that we will ever come close to running out.
As with all markets, there will be shortages at times, and I'd expect folks like you to harp on it every time using your lithium-containing phones via the internet which is backed up by lithium-containing UPS systems at every hop.
The claim that it is physically impossible to build an EV for everyone on the planet is false and stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself, whether because you are too stupid to know this fact or if you are a liar.
First, it takes maybe 100 kg of lithium (but probably less) for one EV battery. I believe we know of at least 20 million metric tons of reserves, which is enough for more than 200 million vehicles. And we know of 100 million more tons of resources, which is enough for a billion EVs. Also the oceans contain several hundred to thousands of times more lithium than we could ever need, should the need and tech arise.
But we will never need that much because lithium in an EV battery doesn't get used up, it is infinitely recyclable. The lithium in your first EV will be recycled and used to build one for the next generation.
Also it is doubtful that lithium is the pinnacle of battery tech. We've only been developing it for a few decades, and given that it will take many more decades for EV adoption to come close to 100%, and that there are multiple other techs and chemistries in development, it's highly unlikely that we will ever come close to running out.
As with all markets, there will be shortages at times, and I'd expect folks like you to harp on it every time using your lithium-containing phones via the internet which is backed up by lithium-containing UPS systems at every hop.
The claim that it is physically impossible to build an EV for everyone on the planet is false and stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself, whether because you are too stupid to know this fact or if you are a liar.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:15 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
Go with hydrogen fueled vehicles. Most abundant element in the universe. Break down water and you get hydrogen (Fuel) and oxygen (antipolution element). Burn hydrogen and you get heat (power vehicles) and water as waste product from the combustion.
I know there are lots of problems with hydrogen fuel. Hopefully someone (who is alive and working on it today) will figure out how to do it. Certainly makes more sense than lithium.
I know there are lots of problems with hydrogen fuel. Hopefully someone (who is alive and working on it today) will figure out how to do it. Certainly makes more sense than lithium.
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