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It is physically impossible for all automobiles to be powered by lithium ion batteries

Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:46 pm
It has been known since at least the early 1990s that there are not sufficient proven lithium reserves on THE GLOBE to satisfy global demand for automobiles (not even mentioning other forms of fossil fuel transportation) ONE TIME (i.e. you couldn’t even give every person who needs a car an electric car powered by lithium ion battery ONCE before there simply is no more lithium left ON EARTH - but of course most people need multiple cars over the course of a lifetime of driving).

It is simply physically IMPOSSIBLE, without an entirely new form of battery technology which doesn't currently exist, to make the global fleet of automobiles electric. The forces advocating for electric vehicles/against gas powered vehicles fall into two camps - 1. Too stupid to know this FACT, or 2. People who know that it is impossible but who expect all but the most wealthy people on earth to accept a massive, unprecedented decline in their standard of living to reduce global CO2 emissions.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:47 pm to
Profound knowledge on this Sunday the 16th of October, year 2022. Thank you for your service to the OT.
Posted by Lone Wolf McQuade
Member since Sep 2022
207 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:48 pm to
The joke will be on us.

They are not planning on everyone owning a car.

You’ll own nothing and be happy.
Posted by DaLSUTigers
Texas
Member since Jan 2007
579 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:48 pm to
don't bring logic or facts into a conversations with Dems/Libs. The best decisions are all made with feelings
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14673 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:48 pm to
Yup, impossible to innovate something new
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
40475 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:01 pm to
You’re assuming they plan to have current levels of people and cars on the planet.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45949 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:02 pm to
Thank you for not yelling at us.
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16676 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:02 pm to
Sounds like you're questioning lord biden and our democrat overlords. Expect a $2500 fine from Paypal soon for wrong think.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 2:05 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

simply physically IMPOSSIBLE, without an entirely new form of battery technology which doesn't currently exist, to make the global fleet of automobiles electric.


Almost as if there should be billions of dollars in research going into this industry....
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

It is physically impossible

Doesn't mean what you think it does.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34272 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:22 pm to
You do know that billions of dollars are being invested into battery tech...please tell me you do...
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3467 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:28 pm to
Is Lithium and battery power the new ‘global warming’ trigger for folks on the right? Why does it always come down to "us vs them" in every conversation? Not everything has to be binary in this world.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13184 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:09 pm to
Just wait until they start trying to replace diesel tractor trailers with batteries......
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
49093 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:14 pm to
I never plan on owning an EV so one of y'all can have my lithium
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12321 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 5:16 pm to
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BrianKellyRespecter
Dinosaur alert.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29771 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

It is simply physically IMPOSSIBLE, without an entirely new form of battery technology which doesn't currently exist,


You don’t know what in the frick you’re talking about

Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19431 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 5:30 pm to
Ever heard of gallium nitrate?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14206 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:10 pm to
If you have to ask…..
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28744 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:13 pm to
So much misinformation and lies.

First, it takes maybe 100 kg of lithium (but probably less) for one EV battery. I believe we know of at least 20 million metric tons of reserves, which is enough for more than 200 million vehicles. And we know of 100 million more tons of resources, which is enough for a billion EVs. Also the oceans contain several hundred to thousands of times more lithium than we could ever need, should the need and tech arise.

But we will never need that much because lithium in an EV battery doesn't get used up, it is infinitely recyclable. The lithium in your first EV will be recycled and used to build one for the next generation.

Also it is doubtful that lithium is the pinnacle of battery tech. We've only been developing it for a few decades, and given that it will take many more decades for EV adoption to come close to 100%, and that there are multiple other techs and chemistries in development, it's highly unlikely that we will ever come close to running out.


As with all markets, there will be shortages at times, and I'd expect folks like you to harp on it every time using your lithium-containing phones via the internet which is backed up by lithium-containing UPS systems at every hop.

The claim that it is physically impossible to build an EV for everyone on the planet is false and stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself, whether because you are too stupid to know this fact or if you are a liar.

Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14275 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:15 pm to
Go with hydrogen fueled vehicles. Most abundant element in the universe. Break down water and you get hydrogen (Fuel) and oxygen (antipolution element). Burn hydrogen and you get heat (power vehicles) and water as waste product from the combustion.

I know there are lots of problems with hydrogen fuel. Hopefully someone (who is alive and working on it today) will figure out how to do it. Certainly makes more sense than lithium.
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