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re: dont shite on denbrock
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:14 am to RB10
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:14 am to RB10
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I just watched a QB hesitant to pull the trigger when his receivers were wide open all night and don't think he can execute the RPO because of that. You know, because he has to pull the trigger quickly.
You're literally arguing why we should be running an RPO and then saying he won't do it b/c of the failures in the anti-RPO offense
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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Because our offense was running the antithesis of a 1-read (RPO or R-O) offense. You run a different offense and you'll get different results (just like when we ditched the condensed formations for spread and slow playstyle for faster playing).
There were several times Sunday that his first read was open. He stared at them, pumped because he couldn't pull the trigger, and then tucked and ran. If he can't pull the trigger in that situation, he may not be pulling it running RPOs either. Hence the reason they aren't running them.
Believing the coaches actually scheme these things out in practice......Crazy, I know.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:18 am to Fat Bastard
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line sucked he has to scheme around it
calling long developing route plays is not how you scheme for an average o line. the o line will look even worse if they are going to have to protect for more than 2 seconds.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:18 am to RB10
The fact that you don’t even realize that you continue to make the argument for more RPO is astounding
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:21 am to RB10
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Believing the coaches actually scheme these things out in practice
practice is one thing. a live game is another. the offense was clunky and in chaos the first half. the only reason LSU was still in it was because daniels can run like a deer when things break down.
they broke down often IMO because of either the long routes the WR were running (scheme/playcalling) or daniels didn't make the right read OR a star wide receiver dropped passes.
hopefully we see a more spread out style offense going forward. get kole taylor off the damn field. he is a total liability.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:23 am to Not Cooper
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The fact that you don’t even realize that you continue to make the argument for more RPO is astounding
Do you even know if Denbrock prefers a post or pre snap RPO scheme?
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:25 am to RB10
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Do you even know if Denbrock prefers a post or pre snap RPO scheme?
He has both concepts in his offense. I’m not the one you want to attack when it comes to Denbrock. I know what he likes to do and what he had success with. He deviated from that on Sunday.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:26 am to Not Cooper
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He has both concepts in his offense. I’m not the one you want to attack when it comes to Denbrock. I know what he likes to do and what he had success with. He deviated from that on Sunday.
Almost like he's adjusting to his personnel and not forcing them to run something they aren't comfortable with.
Interesting.
ETA: You can eliminate the pre snap RPOs completely, by the way. Daniels hasn't shown anything in the way of pre snap reads, even with his pass protection.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 11:28 am
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:26 am to Not Cooper
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I know what he likes to do and what he had success with. He deviated from that on Sunday.
I just have this feeling he's a Cam Cameron-type where he limits his overly-complicated playbook unless everyone has everything perfect and that's why he deviated from what he did last year, Sunday night.
Kelly's the same way, which is why ND had major problems once he abandoned keeping up with modern offenses and having a crystalized vision of "his offense".
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:30 am to RB10
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Almost like he's adjusting to his personnel and not forcing them to run something they aren't comfortable with. Interesting.
Again. That’s just not the case. If your quarterback is struggling reading the coverages and pressures, you make his reads simpler. You continue to make points on why the coaches should have made his reads simpler, but just not RPO.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:33 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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e’re ranked #8 in team talent LINK. If we finish unranked that is by definit
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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I just have this feeling he's a Cam Cameron-type where he limits his overly-complicated playbook unless everyone has everything perfect and that's why he deviated from what he did last year, Sunday night.
You may be right. I just hope not. I think he and Kelly came in thinking he could throw the ball with ease vs FSU (Kelly did it to FSU last year), and didn’t anticipate Daniels not being able to read the coverages and pressures. My hope is that his game plan for the first half was just to drop back and sling it, and by the time we got deep into the game we were already down too big to be able to continue to try to run the ball. I hope we see a 180 in playcalling this week
Posted on 9/6/22 at 1:23 pm to RB10
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Getting Daniels out of the pocket seems like a good idea, but who knows.
I think it would be a great idea. Run some play action. Run some bootlegs. That is what he is good at.
Get him on the edge. I wasn't impressed with denbrock or his run game concepts.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 1:25 pm to Not Cooper
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I did not like the lack of designed runs and lack of quick passing game. Those were staples of his offenses at Cincy and he just abandoned them.
Cincy had a WAYYY better O-Line last year than we do this year. They weren't opening up any running lanes, thus the rushing game suffers.
That front needs experience and cohesion. Something you aren't going to get after just one game.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 3:43 pm to monsterballads
Yes it did. It looked like the bad ones under wimbush, Zaire, Golson....
Posted on 9/7/22 at 5:01 pm to monsterballads
Shouldn't of let him hire them. Denbrock, Quinn, Polian are all cronies.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 5:02 pm to charminultra
Denbrock was a terrible hire by the end of this season the board will come around to realize
Posted on 9/7/22 at 6:45 pm to idlewatcher
Then carry your arse and go be a bandwagon Alabama fan.
Anybody with any kind of common sense knew this was going to be a tough year for them.
Anybody with any kind of common sense knew this was going to be a tough year for them.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 6:51 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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We’re ranked #8 in team talent LINK. If we finish unranked that is by definition on coaching.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 6:53 pm to Magician2
quote:you’ve said this about jay johnson and you’re still the only retard that says it. Nobody takes u seriously. You are a fricking idiot
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